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Subject: Agree...

Date: Tue 09/02/16 23:17:52 GMT

Name: Aristos

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I think Dima did not do himself a favor to give this set away for free as an example of his improved quality. Most if the issues have been covered by others already.

Indeed it is the photographer that needs to improve, camera and lens are not the problem here. According to the EXIF data the lens is the EF-S 17-55 2-8 IS USM. All of the pics I did for maxiwam.com were shot with this model. It is a very good standard zoom being not too far away from some L series objectives when you get a good one. From f/4 and up it is really really sharp. 2.8 is rather mediocre; that's the reason why I try to avoid this setting (I was really pissed when I once forgot to switch back and loads of "money shoots" were, well, below the standard I want them to have). But in this case, as mentioned, it is not the 2.8 aperture, it's photography skills that messed up the pics, i.e.by using all AF points instead of prefocusing with one or a small group. Together with the long exposure time this can't be rescued by any postprocessing.

I bought one or two sets from Dima when he started and was disappointed. Not because of the money, I would have felt the same had I payed 3 USD. Actually, I would equally be disappointed if I would have bought the test set that he just released. For our maxiwam sets I would have disregarded the majority of the pics, mainly due to blurriness. If this is the new and improved standard, I will not buy any set, for certain. The main improvement I see is the extra light that was used... I am not too picky technically-wise, but a certain standard is a must to me - with correctly focussed pics being a very basic.

If I understand correctly, Dima is not doing the pics himself. So my main suggestion is to get a photographer who is technically sound and, similarly important, is into wetlook himself or has at least a really good sense of it. Because this is the other thing that draws me away from this site, the certainty that the shots do not cover the important moments to the detail I want them to have.

Just my two cents...

Aristos

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Re:Wetlooker: some conclusions and a little compliment!

By Chris B. - WAM Photography - chris@wetandmessyphotography.com Tue 09/02/16 16:18:23 GMT

Website: https://www.wetandmessyphotography.com/

Hi Slawomirro,

while I agree that with the given photos a little post-production would help, from my point of view it does not rescue a "lost" photo. The mistake was made during capture and looking at the exifs it shows exposure of 1/100 and an aperture of 2.8 in all of the preview shots and after a second look throughout the whole set. This requires an extremely steady hand and a very precise focus. Chances are very high you will be off focus with these settings, as in the case of almost all of the previews here. Having fixed settings is ok, when you have controlled and almost constant light-situation, but in this case one should let the camera help a little. In addition a Canon 550D is used and while I cannot find the lense in the EXIF I assume it's standard 18-55mm KIT lense, which I used once many years ago and threw out of the window immediately because it was almost impossible to get focused shots with it. Investing in decent equipment is probably one of the most important task besides really working on those very rudimentary photographic skills of whomever is taking the shots.

When I look at the video it shows another aspect of doing wetlook shoots (but of course that's not only true for wetlook shoots). While most of the first part is well focused you can witness a classic thing that is going to happen during a shoot where you have to handle photo and video as well. At about 3:45 the camera guy makes a good move by adapting the angle of the camera because he realises that his models will move out of frame a little. But he forgets that this also changes the distance from camera to models and thus the focus will have to change as well. This results in almost 2 mins of off-focus video. This has more to do with directing models and remain cocentrated then being an euipment-geek. Just make sure your models don't move unless you made sure all camera settings are set corretly again for what you want to shoot. One should not rush through a shoot but give it time ... you can edit out director inputs afterwards (allthoughthis requires again more detailed post-production).

Don't get me wrong, I am not critisizing what Dima and his crew do, but trying to add a littel input from my amateurish experience. I know a little something about how difficult it is to handle every part of your equipment during a shoot, while a clueless model expects you to direct you to pose and perform for a fetish she has little to no knowledge. It's esay to make mistakes if you get into a nervous rush. Be patient, take your time for production and post-production.

Nuff said, I am only doing this as a hobby, so don't take any of what I write for an experts opinion. I am not a professional photographer, I just gained some skills and treid to omprove constantly in what I do.

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Re:Wetlooker: some conclusions and a little compliment!

By Slawomirro - Tue 09/02/16 11:11:56 GMT

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Your orginal photo:

After unsharp mask...

... all photos after resize should be get sharper or unsharp mask.

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Wetlooker: some conclusions and a little compliment!

By Dima - Tue 09/02/16 10:38:40 GMT

Website: http://wetlooker.com/

Thank you so much for all your reviews!

It's an important call to change something in wetlooker.com.

We have started to improve our shooting session right today, but it need a patience (because a lot of sets already shooted and uploaded).

As a complimentary for all your suggestions and reviews, please download one free set with video from our recent session:

https://dropmefiles.com/Fg3os (it will be available only 7 days)

Hope, you will enjoy it.

I have try to summarize roadmap of future development:

- technical quality: light, blur, post-production

- more different model's poses, less same type series of shots, different shooting angles, attention to exits from water

- more enjoyment and emotions

- no smoking, less ripping

- duration of video

- add different outfits: dresses, skirts, pantyhoses

- more different shoes (heels, ked and vans, sneakers, not only socks)

- affordable price policy

What else?

Thank you again!

Some preview photos of free set:

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