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Message # 63079.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Subject: Why are people so sure this is NOT animal abuse? Date: Tue 16/12/14 17:47:20 GMT Name: warray11 |
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Dear friend, bulls like to be in the meadows, in the country, eating grass, being quiet. Do you really think that being in a bullring being shouted, jumped, pushed to pool and hit by tens of people is what the bull prefer? Have you asked the bull? Here in Catalonia (Spain for those who don't know it) know very well the treatment that a bull receives in this kind of celebrations (not typical "corrida") . For this reason, even these kind of celebrations have been banned at least in Barcelona.
Please, on the other side, don't compare a dog with a bull, they have been domesticated for different purposes. The stress level is different for each given its condition. Just have more empathy with them and try to understand.
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By jollywetfellow - Mon 15/12/14 12:09:56 GMT I am surprised at the vehemence of opposition to this. I hadn't come across "toro piscine" before and to start with thought it horrible, but watching it became clear that it is a chasing game not a bullfight. If you chased around with a dog or a human child in this way you would assume that they were having great fun. Young cattle are just as playful as other young mammals; the beast is not physically harmed in any way and seems to be going out of its way to avoid trampling on the humans or being too rough with them, as if it regards them as playmates not enemies. From time to time people post videos of somebody sticking a hook into an animal and hauling it into an environment in which it will slowly die, yet nobody objects to that........ |
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By Anonymous - Mon 15/12/14 00:17:06 GMT Well I just think it's a shame that the bull's horns have been blunted... |
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By Al'eau - Sun 14/12/14 22:22:26 GMT There is no mistreatment of animals during "toro / piscine" show : the toro is not killed or even injured during them unlike corrida.
Animal torture is also totally forbidden in France and you may go to jail for that. The only exception is the infamous corrida which is tolerated for folkloric reason in some areas and even for that, there is lot of initiative to remove this monstrosity ! |
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By youngwetfan - Sun 14/12/14 06:09:08 GMT maybe in many countries, but not in france. they have no problem with it, youtube has no problem with it, i have no problem with it. if posting something like this breaks the rules of the forum, feel free to contact the webmaster for delete the post. and no one have to watch the video if he/she has a problem with it. |
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By Anonymous - Sun 14/12/14 02:28:12 GMT This mistreatment of animals (which happens for no other reason than the pleasure of a few weirdos) is illegal in many countries. |
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By youngwetfan - Sat 13/12/14 21:03:29 GMT it's your opinion... while thinking about the many problems in the world, seeing humans being treaten bad, killed or something else, i think those animals are not the "first place problem" for being moralistic about it...and that is my oipinion. i think they are well after doing those shows and so i have no problems with it.
(sorry for bad english)
ywf |
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By Jay - Sat 13/12/14 20:18:31 GMT (no text) |
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By youngwetfan - Sat 13/12/14 19:32:26 GMT hi, found three videos of girls getting wet during a french summer game (tradition?). i saw two of these kind of show live during holiday in france, there's some nice wetlook potential if you would find a video from a cameraman who puts the focus on it ( i think the videos in the links are not filmed with the main Intension for wetlook). there are some more on the uploaders canal, but they have just a little wetlook or some very hard "crashes" between girls and cows/bulls.
maybe someone likes it.
p.s. long time ago i had a video named "toro piscine vergeze" on my hard drive that shows mainly just one girl in blue shirt and grey short trousers beeing involved in that kind of action. it was posted on YouTube, but i cannot find it anymore. maybe someone has a copy of it and will be able to share it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejotl2QT77U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf5u1gmxEHk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP1DjTThmV0
greetings, ywf
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