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Message # 23685.2.1.1.1.1.1 Subject: Re: I suppose... Date: Wed 19/07/06 14:59:30 GMT Name: Telcontar Email: mrnemesis@ntlworld.com |
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Everyone's experiences vary. We all have different mindsets, different approaches... Different things we like about getting wet, different dreams. For your sake and mine I'll just leave it at that. One day I'll learn to shut the f*ck up and not bother writing pages of crap about my life on public forums :) |
In reply to Message (23685.2.1.1.1.1) Re: I suppose...
By regenman - regenman@planet.nl Wed 19/07/06 14:25:26 GMT Telcontar >> Thanks for the suggestions although I think you very much misunderstood what I meant.
True, I totally missed the point. With the risk of missing it once more: It seems your problem has more to do with social behaviour in general, not so much with specific wetlook. I won't pretend I got some advice there. Let me just say: In my very personal opinion, getting wet with other people is highly overrated. Wet clothes feel good on your own body, not on somebody else's (contrary to custard, but that's off topic). Besides: When getting wet with a group, you'll need all your attention for the group and none left for just feeling the pleasure. Afterwards, you'll feel lonely, because their fun was so different from yours. That is, UNLESS you are with just one girlfriend, you both are into wetlook, know it about each other, and feel free to share the pleasure. At least, that's what I imagine, having no experience...
Reg |
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By Telcontar - mrnemesis@ntlworld.com Wed 19/07/06 13:57:06 GMT Thanks for the suggestions although I think you very much misunderstood what I meant. I didn't mean how to play alone at the beach or a river, I meant specifically how to play in a garden or hotel pool with a girl and maybe a group of friends or whoever else happens to be around. Like all the video clips from YouTube that get posted, and the Webshots galleries of what groups of friends get up to. That is, supposing I did have an opportunity at some party or evening to go in the pool in the host's garden? Then what? I guess it would take care of itself but quite possibly I'd just stand there and not know what I am meant to be doing. I also catch on to things very slowly and feel quite awkward and want to avoid any games to just not look like a big clueless idiot.
It's immaterial of course as such situations would never arise anyway.
(Incidentally, You"Tube"? I thought tubes were out of fashion these days in favour of TFT flat screens ... I am still waiting for OLED/LEP to become mainstream myself.) |
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By regenman - regenman@planet.nl Wed 19/07/06 13:33:31 GMT Telcontar and me appear to be on the same wavelength... So I will not quote his text and say "me too".
I'd like to say some things about playing with water. I think it's a pity you don't know how to play with it, but maybe you can learn, with a bit of practice. Maybe I can give you some hints.
Don't go to a pool. Go to a beach, fountain or stream, and try some of the following:
- On a beach, try to walk (fully dressed, of course) on the wet sand, but not in the waves. Try to walk as closely to the waves as possible. Whenever a wave comes in, run for dry land at the very last moment. You'll find that it's hard to judge the waves. Quite soon a wave will come that is higher and faster then you expected. You are not fast enough to avoid it, so it soaks your shoes... And at that point you decide "Oh well, my shoes are wet anyway, but my pants are still dry, so let's keep 'em that way." Play the same game with the waves, just a little deeper, until your pants are wet too. And deeper... And deeper... Many children play this game at the beach, ending up dripping wet. Remember that you play this game to lose, not to win!
- Also on a beach: Lift your trousers as high as possible, walk into the waves to where the water just doesn't touch your pants, then wait for a wave to roll in. Try to jump over it, without getting your pants wet. Failure is guaranteed. If you get bored of this game, try the same while running alongside the beach.
- Sit down close to a fountain or kiddy pool, so that every once in a while a droplet hits you. The kids will splash you once in a while, warning each other to be careful with your dry clothes, or apoligizing for getting you wet. If this happens, answer with a big smile "Don't worry, I'm not afraid of water". If that doesn't do the trick, say with the same big smile "You better beware, I might throw back!" When they keep splashing you (that depends on your smile) make good on your promise. Stand up, squat down at the side of the pool, and throw some water in their direction. Before you know it, you will be in a full sized water-war, everybody against you. Just keep it down a bit: As an adult, you're much better at throwing water then little children. A bit of splashing from your side is enough to keep everybody happy. Some parents may want to have a word with you. They might say "You're good with children! Do you have some yourself?" Oh! Remember: It's illegal to enjoy watching the children get wet. Just enjoy your own wetness. Still: It IS allowed to have innocent fun with children and enjoying that fun. There's a fine line between the two. I prefer to stay well on the safe side.
- A stream gives many opportunities for rock-hopping, wading, dam-building or waterfall-climbing. If you get serious at that, you might pick up canyoning.
- On any kind of water: Buy a kayak and learn to handle it. Handling it includes capsising, deep-water-recoveries, difficult entries and exits, bracing and eskimorolling - apart from the actual kayakking in choppy waves, whitewater or surf. Kayakkers rarely wear swimming pants. In cold conditions, they wear neoprene (which I hate), aquashell(which is a bit better) stretchfleece (which is GREAT when wet) polypro (which is a bit clammy, but OK) or just summer clothes, usually with normal underwear.
Hope this gives some inspiration,
Reg
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By Telcontar - mrnemesis@ntlworld.com Wed 19/07/06 09:04:07 GMT Well, I'll be brief on this one ... (else Martina is going to kill us) ... Something that turns me off for some reason is seeing a girl who's just jumped in or got dunked, look down at herself. I've tended to assume she's checking to see she's not indecent or anything, and that puts me off. I think I want her to be more carefree and not notice how she looks, and not even worry or care that she might be exposing herself (i.e. a t-shirt with no bra underneath). Not that I necessarily want her to be see-through, but that I don't want someone who worries about such things. But I get these stupid hang-ups about what girls do, so it's probably just me.
Of course, she might just be curious to see how she looks wet, and I'm sure I'd do the same and check to see how I look :) (for a bloke with old, sad clothes, long shaggy hair and who doesn't shave much, I'm a bit of a conundrum here as I do want to look nice wet. Go figure...)
But yes, natural fun appeals to me a lot more than sexy teasing and posing. I don't like sluts. Watching a girl play in the water just for fun is really sweet, it would be better still if I could climb inside a YouTube movie and join in, as long as she's old enough and not drunk. Drunk people I have nothing to do with. Age is more since I can't stand squealing, shrieking little girls, I want someone who displays a little more self-control.
The irony is that I have absolutely no idea how to play in a pool. I don't know how to have simple fun, I'd not know what to do in the water when I got it. Maybe it would just take care of itself, I don't know, but this is one reason I'd actively avoid such a situation. I know how to talk nerdy, and I love old DOS video games (Worms! The shotgun is pure pwnage) but play in a pool? That's as alien to me as if I'd just stepped off a bus from Mars. |
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By regenman - regenman@planet.nl Wed 19/07/06 08:09:20 GMT >> Thank you Regenman [You should stop smoking, BTW. Too many cigarettes in your story ]
I've sent in another story, with pictures, where I hardly talk about sigarettes at all! Just once. Oh, talking about smoking, excuse me one second while I light another one...
I think Telcontar and you are in a real interesting discussion. I have some thoughts that differ from yours:
You wrote: >>Not that I know a lot of, but take any soft porn scene, any "sport clip" in the german "DSF" TV night program that starts >>with a girl getting soaked or muddy. All that wet/mudlook seems to be just a teaser to fuel male fantasy, and fast enough >>the girl somehow loses her wet clothes, ending up naked. And if one thing is sure then it is the fact that these producers >>exactly know what their target group likes to see.
Those producers surely know - but they not only know how to satisfy their audience. They also know how to satisfy their main customers: Their advertisers. Their main goal is not to satisfy the viewers, but to keep their attention, which they might do by NOT showing what people want to see. Specifically in MTV-clips and commercials I got a strong impression that the producer shows something sexy (often for less then half a second) that will whet your appetite and leave you hoping for more - which will never come. If the shot would be long enough to "satisfy" any viewer, he would turn off the TV and be lost as audience. (I am speculating here.)
In movies, there has to be a different goal, but what? A wet scene might result in a wetlook-advertisement for the movie, like in "Up close and personal", "Titanic" or "Six days, seven nights". The incredible messy scene in "Tommy" must serve a different purpose. It is so much out of context and I think there was just one reason: The producer LIKED to see that kind of scene and saw his chance. Is there any producer or advertisement-maker that knows the full story? I'm curious.
Telcontar: So I figure women like looking at hot men plenty. But, it seems, they're just not interested in wet men. Dang, cause I'd love to believe that I look really sexy wet! =) Martina: Hmmm, that's really how I feel when I'm wet, too. But I also believe that only thinking one looks sexy somehow makes ones behaviour and thus the appearance sexier. Automatically. Try it. Start smiling.
What I personally like is seeing a girl that clearly enjoys the feeling without wondering how it looks. That's why I like candid pictures (or real-life wetness) better than wet models. In models, I like the ones that enjoy what they are doing, or at least act like they do. I don't like them acting "sexy" or aroused. I like the natural look of innocent joy: Just the joy of cooling down, of feeling the soft touch of wet textile, or the joy of doing something rediculous.
@Martina: (Or any other girl or woman) could you try to describe what you like in pictures of wet males? What you like to see and what not? I would like to try and make some pictures of myself that women like to see. So, any advice might come back as a picture you like! You might start by looking at my pictures of yesterday http://community.webshots.com/album/552379742sAXyrT and commenting on them. (Warning: male wetlook)
Thanks in advance,
Reg (Enman) |
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By WetMartina - wetmartina@sonnenkinder.org Tue 18/07/06 13:26:03 GMT Hi all, I'd like to thank all of you that emailed me their comments about my tiny story. And, even more, I loved very much to find some other small stories here. Thank you Regenman [You should stop smoking, BTW. Too many cigarettes in your story ], Jennifer and Todd, and Victor. Please, all, don't keep your everyday experiences secret. A few lines are enough, and it's great to know that someone with a known name has become wet and happy again. And, last but not least, it was a great pleasure to see all the vintage jeans photos by Frankie posted by Scott. I wish I would have been there, but I guess I'm some years too young plus I lived in the wrong part of the world those days, plus my parents were a bit to strict. However, today is today, and I still owe Telcontar some answers to his posting (quotes indented).
Well, I'm still sure that for the majority of men (present company excepted) not female wetlook is the thing they are after, but simply naked skin. Wetlook might be one medium to stimulate their fantasy. Not that I know a lot of, but take any soft porn scene, any "sport clip" in the german "DSF" TV night program that starts with a girl getting soaked or muddy. All that wet/mudlook seems to be just a teaser to fuel male fantasy, and fast enough the girl somehow loses her wet clothes, ending up naked. And if one thing is sure then it is the fact that these producers exactly know what their target group likes to see.
Perhaps we can figure out what men want that visit this forum here. We still can't tell whether there are more or less men after wetlook than, say, ten years ago. The increasing number of forum visitors may also says that it's easier or cheaper to get "into" the web, or that search enginges got better to find what these men were looking for. If you do your poll, please include a question like "Since when are you a wetlook lover". I guess most answers will be "since my teenager years".
Yes, I see a difference. And I doubt to be an aide in that concern. But then, is the difference so great? Would you ask a girl when you meet her the first time for her thoughts about the latest Linux kernel compilation? I guess no, since you know most of the girls would stay up and go away (and most boys, too). So you would leave that subject for later, maybe when she needs som help with her Windows. Maybe you have the chance to accompany her for a swimming in the sea or pool. If you by that chance tell her that you prefer to swim wearing a shirt and that you like the feeling on the skin etc. (instead of silly excuses about UV radiation) and you do not ask her to do the same then I can't imagine she will cry out and run away. And if she does, then don't worry: she was the wrong one.
I only can imagine some very historic reasons for this difference: Men had to protect their tribe against wild animals, against other enemies. Men had to fight wars. Women had to educate children. Maybe in some thousand years the difference will disappear. Hopefully.
Hmmm, that's really how I feel when I'm wet, too. But I also believe that only thinking one looks sexy somehow makes ones behaviour and thus the appearance sexier. Automatically. Try it. Start smiling.
May I suggest to start with a simply DB table, one column per question, on record per participant? Write a simple PHP form with input elements (checkboxes, radiobuttons, combo boxes, and edit fields) to output and to verify the form and to put the record into the table. If filled, export the table and do the whole interpretation stuff using Calc or Excel or whatever.
Gesundheit! Martina |
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