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Main Entry: nude

Pronunciation: 'nüd, 'nyüd - http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?nude0001.wav=nude (American)

Function: adjective

Inflected Form(s): nud·er; nud·est

Etymology: Latin nudus naked -- more at NAKED

1 : lacking something essential especially to legal validity <a nude contract>

2 a : devoid of a natural or conventional covering; especially : not covered by clothing or a drape b (1) : of the color of a white person's flesh (2) : giving the appearance of nudity <a nude dress> c : featuring nudes <a nude movie> d : frequented by naked people <a nude beach>

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Note the "giving the appearance of nudity <a nude dress>" entry

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Main Entry: por·nog·ra·phy

Pronunciation: -fE - http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?pornog02.wav=pornography (American)

Function: noun

Etymology: Greek pornographos, adjective, writing about prostitutes, from pornE prostitute + graphein to write; akin to Greek pernanai to sell, poros journey -- more at FARE, CARVE

1 : the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement

2 : material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement

3 : the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction <the pornography of violence>

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The empasis here is obviously on the INTENTION to "cause sexual excitement".  So you could argue that for many wetlook enthusiasts, almost all wetlook images are pornographic, not mater the thickness of the clothing !

For nudity, I'd pretty much go along with what has been said, if the clothing is thin (even not wet), and the nipples or crotch area are/is CLEARLY visible, then that's nudity for me.

For pornography, I'd tend to go more for the 3rd definition, that is when it involves sensationalizing of the acts or images.  That is when they are done, or filmed in an unnatural way.  For me there is nothing pornographic about a couple having sex, even with glimpses of genitals.  For me it becomes pornographic if the camera goes unnaturally close, or the people are in unnatural positions just for the camera.  In other words if the act(s) are perverted (changed) because the camera is there.

Take the case of a woman masterbating, most women naturally masturbate with their legs reasonably together, and gernerally not holding their lips wide appart as is often portrayed in images.  A video of a woman masterbating naturally actually shows off very little, and yet it can be (and would have the intention of being) extremely erotic - but not pornography in my book.

Nigel