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Subject: those were the days...........

Date: Sun 21/12/03 04:46:00 GMT

Name: Kev

Email: kev@styx-photography.com

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The way we use to find people, before the internet, and even before Splosh magazine was by adverising in the UK magazine, Fiesta. Fiesta used to carry regular WAM glamour photosets. Also, how many "old timers" out there can remember photographers such as Colin Twyford?

We used to have a mailing list, which, if we were lucky, we could add maybe 5 or 6 people too each time we advertised. bear in mind this was over 15 years ago and it used to cost nearly £100 ($170) for each advert. We used to mail shot every six months with our latest photosets (eventually we started producing video tapes too).

We updated Stywetworld this week with 340 pix in 4 photosets-at a cost of less than $1 per photoset (you have to do the maths).

This works out at around 5 cents per picture

Back then photosets, mainly from Aquantics, used to come as unmounted 35mm slides and used to be around £20 ($35) for a set of 36- if I remember correctly. A cost of around $1 per picture.

A friend of mine, whom I have known for years and years still has a micro-fiche viewer for looking at these slides- not a very convenient way of viewing your latest purchase : )

So despite complaints from certain quarters, compared to 15 or 20 years ago, there is more WAM material than ever, it's far far cheaper then ever it was (less than 1/20 of the old price) and is available instantly, without all the hassle of mail order.

So much for the "good old days"- it could take us a year to add only 50 people to our mailing list- now you can launch a new site and have 1000 visitors within a few hours.

However one thing it does show, is that the more people who buy stuff (and share the cost)the cheaper it gets to supply it. How many products (movies, music, magazines, books, etc) are 1/20 of the cost they were 15 years ago? Just shows what the WAM producers can do with support.

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Re: Off Topic - 24 hours bandwidth on StyxWetWorld

By MK - wamtec@compuserve.com Sun 21/12/03 03:27:27 GMT

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Well...thats great to see that sites like Styx, Minx and other are generating such a high degree of interest in this subject matter. They are certainly doing a fine job of "spreading the gospel".

Heck...I can remember the early days in the 1980's (before the internet) when we first started to try and find other people who shared our weird interests (wetfan remembers this well)...i.e. prior to the internet, the only email services you could use were Compuserve and Prodigy...and then you could only talk to people on the same proprietary service....and the only way to try and find other like-minded people online was to post classified ads on Compuserve...and then you were lucky to find 10 people interested in this stuff. In the non-pc world, in the 1980's, in the USA you could only find wet fans if you joined the hardcopy newsletter mailing list for PUMPING WATER newsletter...that later evolved into The Wetlook Newsletter that Wetfan ran for many years. Those newsletters and compuserve, plus classified ads in Bill's Splosh magazine...where the only way to find other people who shared your interest. And then...it was hard to find more than 20 to 30 people who liked this stuff.

But now thanks to the Internet, and it is great to see so many wet fans discovering this stuff from all over the world. So...all this traffic that Graham, Kev and Nigel are helping to create...is indeed a good thing.

The more people that find this stuff, the more traffic that gets generated...the more this sub-culture will gain more acceptability in the main stream world.

My wish list for 2004 will be that technology hardware and software will continue to advance at a high pace and enable us to deliver things in better ways in the future (i.e. better video compression codecs that will produce higher quality bit rate online videos at smaller file sizes, upgraded dsl and cable modem broadband systems that will triple people's download speeds, bigger and more affordable servers, more affordable bandwidth etc).

As for tv clip collectors like me...my biggest thanks would be to Arthur C Clarke (who invented the concept of satellite communications back in the 1940's) and to the Nasa space program...for causing most of the tech tools we use today to be invented. And...in an ironic twist...one has to thank the porn industry too...cos despite what anybody thinks about porn...it is man's desire for porn that has been the leading force that has driven the invention of all these media and streaming video tools you see today. Without the need to see porn...the internet would have stayed as largely a text based environment for universities and scientists....

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Off Topic - 24 hours bandwidth on StyxWetWorld

By Graham (UK) - graham@styxwetworld.com Sat 20/12/03 20:08:26 GMT

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Just for interest, I thought you'd be interested in the bandwidth use we have just seen on StyxWetWorld in the last 24 hours.

Sure, we just did a huge update and added some bonus movies too. So, we expected a big hit yesterday and for the next few days. But we just seen 24 hours of amazing bandwidth usage and watched our members visiting the site like excited kids at the candy jar. Funny - we also saw a record number of them blocked for breaking the daily download limit which we increased specifically for this period. Note to members - if you are blocked, you'll find it will automatically lift in 24 hours. The machanism is in place to share the site around ALL the members fairly.

Anyway ... to the bandwidth ... in the last 24 hours, we served up 47Gb of data to members.

To put that in perspective --- an "average" Styx day is around 8 to 10Gb --- JW gave away 36Gb in a month on his site --- the Vintage Wet site averages around 35Gb of bandwidth in a month. A normal (if there is such a thing) website might be expected to serve up 5Gb in a month and a typical hosting company would sell you around 10Gb bandwidth for a month.

It's a good job that Styx has TWO 1 Terrabyte servers - that's all that I can say.

Graham

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