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Subject: Great Re: setting the record straight...

Date: Tue 09/12/03 20:51:19 GMT

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By MK - wamtec@compuserve.com us Tue 09/12/03 04:42:37 GMT

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Kev and Graham have stated their case very eloquently...and now I will state mine (which may not be eloquent...cos thats not the way I am).

 

I have held my tongue and remained silent on this for 2 days -- after Wet Boy Brazil's accusations calling WAMTEC a traitor for not giving free pics. This disinformation he is spreading is so wildly incorrect, I was just waiting to see who would step up to the plate to correct the wamtec record -- but seeing as everybody on this forum appears to be as misinformed as Wet Boy Brazil is,  and has not rebutted his comments against me,  I will have to set the record straight myself. There is an old saying....if you tell a lie about somebody, and then keep repeating it (as Wet Boy Brazil has now done 3 times)...sooner or later the lesser educated people will start to believe it. So...at the risk of sounding arrogant and bombastic...I am going to have to educate you all myself, to set the record straight on why Wet Boy Brazil has no clue about the charges he makes against wamtec.

 

1) Firstly...he charges that wamtec is a traitor for not giving away free pics...and this is totally incorrect. Nothing has changed in that area.  I posted my latest set of free picture galleries only 3 days ago...and you were all notified on this forum of the link to them

 

http://www.wamtec.com/BTZ/wtb04/WTB04.html

 

Nobody responded to my thread....but thats normal these day...it is not my fault if you ignore my postings.

 

2) If you took the time to study my FREE website (Wamtec Lite)...you will find links to over 5000 free pictures are on my site...all my pro series videos, custom series videos, tracie series, wetter the better series, et al....all those galleries are free. Virtually all the pics on my site are in free areas....except for one series...i.e. the Romanian series...those are series I had to move to my paysite...due to the costs we were incurring for hiring those models and I had to buy additional camera gear for EuroWAM TEAM too.  But 90% of the pics on WAMTEC site are in the FREE areas....so Wet Boy Brazil has no clue what he is talking about...and I am disappointed that nobody on this forum has stepped up to correct him on his false accusations against wamtec.  The ONLY thing that is "not free" from me any more...are the video streams....video streams are now only for my supporters and clubmembers...thats because of the high bandwidth costs I have to pay to host those clips online. But Wet Boy Brazil is totally wrong in him saying that I no longer give free pics...because 90% of the pics I DO give away for free...it is only the videoclips that I can no longer give away for free...but he did not refer to video clips...only pics....so his claims are totally inaccurate.

 

3) Wet Boy Brazil...and the rest of you on this forum....don't seem to be fully aware of all the behind the scenes activities that WAMTEC engages in...and all the other producers we support (we provide financial aid and sponsorships to over 30 amateur producers at this time). In Wet Boy Brazil's accusatory postings attacking WAMTEC.....the irony is......he "congratulates"  the Lion (Leonmoonmin) and Wet Brian for offering their pics for free on their site.....well....I have news for you all.....

 

a) Wamtec not only bought all the video cameras that Leonmoomin uses for his projects, wamtec not only finances all his trips to Paris, Thailand and elsewhere ....but wamtec also pays for the website domain and webhosting costs for ALL those so-called free pics on the Leonmoomin site that you take great pains to congratulate him for. All those free pics of Leonmoomin are NOT for free....because SOMEBODY...i.e. WAMTEC is paying for all that webspace and bandwidth that is being used.  Guess what....the bandwidth for downloads for this month on the Leonmoomin website have exceeded the webhosting package. I am already paying for a professional webhosting package for Leonmoomin's site....and the webhost has already charged me 3 extra charges this month...due to exceeding the bandwidth on the Leonmoomin site...and all those extra charges are coming out of my pocket....because people like YOU wet boy are causing them....those downloads you make are being paid for by WAMTEC......so when you accuse wamtec...you are biting the hand that feeds you.

 

b) You also congratulate wet brian (and both he and Leonmoomin both deserve that).....but again....I have to tell you.....that WAMTEC is the sponsor that underwrites the costs for wet brian to produce his Apex tapes and his pics...plus I also pay for his trips too. Wet Brian (Apex) pics and video are also "courtesy of wamtec".

 

I am only guilty of staying out of the limelight and financing leonmoomin, flaviu, wet brian, akuna video, weinerking and 25 other producers.... silently. Perhaps I need to ram things more clearly down your throats...i.e. for every single Leonmoomin pic you gleefully like to download for free....I should place a big banner label right thru the middle of every single pic for you..."this picture is brought to you COURTESY OF WAMTEC.

 

I find it ironic that you pick on a company like mine...who has been giving away tens of thousands of pics for the last 8 years on the net...and only launched a paysite one month ago...and still gives away loads of free pics...and only the video clips are restricted access....yet you omit mentioning all the numerous new companies on UMD who have never contributed ANYTHING to the community...and were 100% paysite operations from day 1.

 

I will conclude by making 2 final comments -- to those who abhor capitalism or commercialism of wetlook.....just remember 2 things...

 

a) where are you right now....you are on this forum....and how much does it cost to pay for the bandwidth on this forum....i.e. several hundred dollars a month....and who absorbs all those costs and pays for them out of his own pocket.....so that you can haven this free forum....    thats right...Nigel and his commercial enterprise provide this forum for you.  Nigel does the same thing as I do....he sells a few tapes in order to sustain his operating costs...and then he makes a great gesture and "gives back to the community"...and gives you this forum foir free. Without commercialism....you...Wet Boy Brazil...would have no place to spread your lies and misinformation....and

 

b) Wet Boy Brazil....what are you using to surf this forum right now.....could it be..."Internet Explorer"....thats a free piece of software that was given to you......by the richest man in the world. People may hate Bill Gates too....but few people give him credit for the billions he gives away to charities, schools, aids foundations each year too.

 

Anyway....before you go accusing wamtec of being a traitor to wetlook....do your homework first and take the time to study my site properly. The only pics that are no longer there are the Romanian pics...all 5000 other pics are still in free areas. If I was to really pull the plug on you folks...and stopped supporting the 25+ other producers that I support....and Nigel were to pull the plug on supporting you all with this free forum at HIS expense.....you would be left with just one address to bookmark....i.e.  www.webshots.com

 

I have no problem with folks who wish to demonize certain wetlook producers....because all they seem to do are post commercials and never seem give anything back to the community --- you can find plenty of wam companies like that on UMD....I have no problems with that...go attack those companies who make "pidgeon drops"...i.e. people who post commercials but never appear to have anything for free.   But before you start picking on companies like Wamtec, Styx, Minx and others likes us.....do your homework first....before you start making accusations...cos if you cannot appreciate what wamtec, styx and minx contribute for FREE to the community on a REGULAR basis....then you have a severe reading or understanding disability.

 

MK

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