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Subject: MikeyABQ You said:

Date: Sun 15/10/17 16:09:29 GMT

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By MikeyABQ - Sat 14/10/17 20:33:50 GMT

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1) The girl next door for most of us is now not only white. We live in a diverse society

2) hottest girls lists worldwide contain girls of different shades with lots of black an latinas (see how Rihanna or Selena Gomez or Beyonce land in these)

3) all other aspects of our life, from television and cinema to adult entertainment reflect that. Wetlook producer output is the only one that does not.

4) yet producers state they decide based on the market need

5) yet we've seen statistics from candid producers that girls of color dressed in western clothing DO NOT get less views

This all doesn't add up, so per freedom of speech I'm allowed to ask questions.

And the people who made it political, are not me, but those who say it shouldn't be here. I did everything right for a valid discussion, that is:

1) made disclaimers excluding Eastern European producers and those who basically have no diverse models to choose from where they live

2) I named the ones who seem to act fair

3) I did not name the ones who don't

4) And I never stated that they were racists. It's just a question. I'm just sad none of the producers I meant even commented. Cause if a white model only producer from the US/UK commented and said, that he just posts what he likes and he prefers white girls I would NOT call him racists. That's his choice. However all producers seem to state that they decide based on sales... and this does not seem right

You would be right in your criticism and calling this a political issue if I wanted some weird political correctness like more black girls in candid photos from Moscow... but I'm asking why Western produced sites don't reflect their societies and this is a valid question, as I have the same type as most (judging by the Selena, Rihanna etc example), I'm attracted to girls of many colors. BTW: we have at least a few ultra-white producers from very diverse countries, who actually has less girl of color sets (that is for instance 0 out of hundreds of shoots) than the Moscow candids, as we've actually seen candid girl of color wetlook both on free photos and in MK's Russian series. This is not political. And asking the question is doing nothing wrong. Producing ultra white stuff may also not be, but may also be against EU, UK and US laws if there are open calls for models and some are turned down due to ethnicity... The "funny" thing is that all you nay-sayers would have a hissy fit if you didn't get a job, but a black or Asian dude got it, because of his race...

By MikeyABQ - Sat 14/10/17 20:10:27 GMT

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AnthonyX, thanks for standing up for me in a way. This was a question like any other (why shoes, why no shoes, why ripping etc). I like exotic girls. And so do many others. And I'm shocked by the whiteness. I posted it with so many disclaimers that I thought this argument would not be used. But still some people have to. But that attitude toward racism and the freedom of speech speaks only about them.

By AnthonyX - anthonyx@jowc.net Sat 14/10/17 17:15:07 GMT

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I don't see any reason why the OP's question should not have been posted. Depending on how you look at it, it could just be a bit of navel-gazing. On the other hand, yes, this sort of question could easily degenerate/escalate into a flame war which would then need to be moderated out. I would hope that it is the former, in which case, I hope the OP got what he was looking for and that's all for this thread.

By Magician - Sat 14/10/17 16:50:56 GMT

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You mentioned racism on this post, but what about feminism? There are hardly any posts  containing guys? Or is this also against the LGBT community?  This post makes no sense and appears to be from someone who enjoys being upset about stuff - there is enough of this going on in the main stream media everyday and no matter which side of the fence you are on we don't need it in this community, which to me appears to accept us all being slightly different from the norm and makes no judgments about any of us.

By Roger - Sat 14/10/17 16:13:04 GMT

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By MikeyABQ - Sat 14/10/17 15:05:52 GMT

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In entertainment, wheather mainstream TV or adult entertainment we now see the racial make up is finally almost like that of Western Europe and the USA

I would like to see the same make up in photos here. The only ultra white place left.

As someone said the girl next door is not only white now. If you live in Los Angeles, Miami, New York, London or Paris. Yet she is exclusively white on producer sites. This has to be called racism, especially after jollywets numbers actually show that the community does want to view diversity

So I will call it as it is.

And I hope one of those white only producers from ethnically diverse US, UK, France etc will finally speak up...

By Sanderson - sanderson@gmail.com Sat 14/10/17 14:04:10 GMT

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But seriously.... why do we have make everything about racism???

By MikeyABQ - Fri 13/10/17 21:33:42 GMT

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I know the wetlook community is mainly based in the US and Europe and people often like to see the girl next door type, but...

Statistically white dudes also like the exotic beauties. Yet it seems not to be the case in the wetlook community. Or is it only among wetlook producers?

I'm going straight into a mine field here, as I will not name names (except positive or justified examples), but actually it's easy to see who is generally NOT representing their countries population...

I fully understand that producers from the Ukraine and Russia (both model and candid) don't really have a choice in skin color, though there are still some (mainly Asian) models present

WetRom is also doing a good job in getting a bit darker skin toned girls in (at least one of his stars must have Roma (gypsy) blood in her), so no discrimination there.

However things get iffy when we go further west and to North America.

I mean kudos to Erik Elsas, he seems to be trying for some diversity.

But as for most producers, from countries which are only say 60-70 percent white, well it seems they represented are whiter than Poland or Lithuania, as virtually all models seem to be white Caucasian.

Why is that? I mean I know there were some sites dedicated to black (or other women of color) wetlook, but that was a long time ago. Some sites dedicated to Asian models/candids still exist (as do some Asian by origin sites), but also few.

So I wonder, will you discuss a more serious topic? It's between shoes or no shoes, summer or winter clothing, ripping or no ripping, messy or no messy here. But are you up for a more serious discussion?

The question is are many well known wetlook producers racist? Or the wetlook public for some reason? Because this fetish seems to be 99.9% about white girls.

Yet the whole industry in the West is definitely not. Even Tainster/AllWam has more diversity despite being based in Czechia.

And no, I don't want to stir controversy. I just like seeing Asian and darker skinned women in wetlook. I mean I like the more Western dress type, as in some tropical countries, they just wear to little clothes, but you know, there is this one dude, from the UK, who posts candids from English beaches. Non-white girls (dressed in western ways) seem to be the majority there... And this is practically the only consistent source for such photos.