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Subject: Happy Re: Info for Vintage Wetlook collectors

Date: Sat 29/11/03 14:50:54 GMT

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Thanks Mark for the info.

 

"The Internet Archives" looks very promising. I couldn't find much wetlook yet, but there is lots of nostalgia stuff from the 30's through 60's including some ads for new clothing fabrics for the time. Haven't seen any "wash-while-you-wear" ads as yet! Wink Smile

 

JJ

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By MK - wamtec@compuserve.com us Sat 29/11/03 12:20:25 GMT

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To: JJ, JW, Wetfan, Mike,Roger & others who like me collect all the vintage stuff...if you are not a vintage fan..skip this message..cos it is real boring and anal if you are not into this stuff like we are...

 

You probably know most of this info, but there are some recent new film archives coming online soon...so here is a recap of the best places to find downloadable newsreels and vintage films containing wetlook stuff.

 

http://www.britishpathe.com/index.cfm

 

Has some great wetlook in many differt short films you can download. My favorites being the girl and guy in the bath in formal dress and the film about the girls hosing their dresses to demonstrate a new fabric spray ("Keep Dry Spray") plus the chelsea pool party from the 1960's where a party girl gets dunked, and the policewoman swimming in her uniform in a film about life saving classes. Lots of great stuff...but sadly the bit rate for the downloadable versions is not very good..so the quality is not that great.

 

The best quality short film archives you can currently get are "The Internet Archives"...at

 

http://www.archive.org/movies/movies.php

 

Over 2000 short films and all available to download at amazing quality that puts British Pathe to shame. Here you can get each film in either low quality streams, or you can download them in your choice of  Mpeg1, Divx, Mpeg4 or Mpeg2 quality. Their Divx and Mpeg2 downloads are superb (mpeg2 is dvd quality). So far I have only taken a quick look and found some underwater stuff that interests me...I have not had the time to input all the search words...so you guys can surf to see if any films contain wetlook. I wish British Pathe would offer high quality downloads like this.

 

Next...coming real soon to be online...will be the largest film and tv archives in the world...the BBC film archives. They have announced that they will make ALL their archives available for FREE download..in the very near future. They are still working on their project...but this has to be the veritable "holy grail" of treasures for us vintage wetlook collectors to look thru. I just hope they offer all those high res formats as the Internet Archives are now doing. Here is the announcement from the BBC.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3177479.stm

 

Thats about "it" as far as I know (if anybody knows of other internet sites with major archives online...let me know). The next 3 main archives I "hope " will go online in future years would be:

 

1) Fox's Movietone news archives....tons of stuff to be found on their old newreels...e.g. underwater weddings etc.

 

2) The UCLA Film and Television Archives...UCLA have the 2nd largest film and television archives, next to the BBC. There are numerous old tv specials with wetlook we are still hunting for. FYI...that Sophia Loren tv special from 1967 we are still looking for...where she dances into the pool...I think UCLA have a copy of that in their archives...the pics JJ has on his site are very nice...

 

http://vintagewet.grayhost.net/wfa/scrap/a04/wfscrap19.html

 

3) And finally -- the Columbia Pictures shorts...as you all know, we are still looking for that Ginny Simms short film where she is in the pool in a business suit.. see here

 

http://www.wamtec.com/GINNY1.JPG

 

I did more research, and found out that the title info I was given was wrong. That scene is not from "Hollywood Stars at Play"...but from a Columbia Pictures short called "Hollywood Shower of Stars"

 

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0283583/

 

There have been some great updates at JJs site recently...and some of them even added more bewilderment and deepen the mystery...for example, Rita Moreno having her dress wetted down...in the Napoleonic era fashion style where the girls would wet their dresses in order to make them cling and more appealing to the eye to try and attract the me...this pic is an enigma to me...

 

http://vintagewet.grayhost.net/vwa/scrap/18/wfscrap18.html

 

...because it purports to be a scene from the 20th century fox film "Desiree"...which I have seen many times...and not only was Rita Morena never in that movie...no such dress wetting scenes are in the film version I have seen either...unless Rita's footage was dropped from the final cut of the film.

 

Anyway guys...keep hunting for that vintage stuff..the work that JJ is going is priceless and the stuff that folks like Wetfan, Pool Dancer and Roger Carpenter are sending in is well worth preserving for posterity and future wetlook generations. If you find any good new sites with archives...let me know.

 

MK

 

Columbia Shorts

 

http://www.wamtec.com/GINNY1.JPG

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