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Subject: Info Re:Are wetlook sites worth the money?

Date: Mon 14/11/16 11:39:26 GMT

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As MK has said, there is very little money in shooting wetlook.  So those of us who still do it mainly do so because we love it.  Regarding outfits, everyone has their own taste - personally I utterly hate all forms of "low rise" jeans and trousers, so I would never use them in a shoot no matter how on-trend or fashionable they were, but I have shot a huge variety of other clothes, from classic traditional high-waist jeans through to wedding dresses, plus overalls, coveralls, and uniforms - in all cases, clothes I think girls look good in dry, and even better wet.  Happy

 

Agree with you on framing of scenes - if a girl is say wading into a river, I want to see all of her, and particularly the "waterline" where her clothes are meeting the water and getting wet, rather than zoomed-in close-ups. Also, often the best views are to be seen from further into the water than the model - i.e. the photographer has to be willing to wade in and get wet and shoot the model coming towards them, instead of the photographer staying on the shore and keeping their feet dry.

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By Bought a few - uu Sun 13/11/16 11:31:11 GMT

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IMHO a lot of sites clearly are not worth the money. I have subscribed to about 4/5 of the major wetlook websites in the past, and came away totally frustrated, for 4 simple reasons.

The problems:

1) Framing. This is aggravating - the cameraman zooms in on the model and then goes all up and down on her. This is ridiculous. All you are seeing is 2 square inches of wet fabric. If I wanted that, I would go to a store, buy a blouse, wet it, and stare at it from 2 inches away. Porn producers do "push-ins" on nude models because it creates the illusion of physical intimacy. In wetlook - it just ruins the shot. I couldn't believe how many producers do this, it makes the video completely useless.

2) Wet hair. Something so simple, yet only 1 producer actually commits to it. The only reason to pay for wetlook is certainty - and yet sometimes a random youtube video is better than a "professional" produced wetlook video, just because of wet hair.

3) Outfits that make no sense. Take a look at modern TV shows, what reporters (and especially weather girls) are wearing. Then look at what models wear in current wetlook vids. They are like 2 decades behind. Sometimes 4 decades behind. I believe the reason for this is that men tend to be aroused by the same thing that first aroused them as a teenager - so a producer who was a teenager in 1982 will pick clothes from the 80's instead of the very sexy modern styles.

4) Attitudes. I prefer wetlook because it defeats narcissism, and promotes sensual arousal and vulnerability in the lady. I had narcissistic parents and I am hyper-sensitive to it, and can't get aroused at a narcissistic woman. Narcissism is ever-present in porn, (and most pop culture) so porn is completely useless for me. So I turn to wetlook and then the wetlook producers begin promoting narcissistic models. There is only one producer I know of who completely avoids it. Every other site - the model is staring dead into the camera, believing herself to be totally dominant in that situation, elevated, superior to, and having power over the viewer. Even Playboy in it's prime knew how to avoid this - much to their financial benefit - promoting the "girl next door" type model. In the reverse, sometimes the producer dominates the model, publicly degrading her, using mild humiliation and power plays on her. I have no need for this, this is ridiculous.

Of course this could be completely different for you, and those 4 reasons might not be important to you at all.

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By AnthonyX - anthonyx@jowc.net ca Sun 13/11/16 05:35:01 GMT

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I'm nowhere close to the top 1%; perhaps around the 60th or 70th percentile (just under the top 30 or 40 percent). I have over the years bought many hours of wetlook - VCR tapes, DVDs, and downloads. I've never subscribed to a site, only paid for specific tapes/DVDs/clip files. OK, I did have one subscription - basically what gave me a discount rate on scene purchases. In my mind, individual item purchases are a better value than subscriptions because I only pay for the content I want. I generally found tapes/DVDs to be of less value than downloads because I pay only for what interests me most, where tapes/DVDs have always been packaged as assortments of scenes, some of which I like, some I never bothered to watch. That's why I never buy the "standard" site subscriptions - they are a content crap shoot - only a fraction of the available content may be interesting, but I would have to pay for all of it. Subscriptions may be problematic in that regard for the producers too... if they post a variety of content under one subscription umbrella, how are they going to know what their audience really likes and what to not waste their resources on? With scene downloads, it's much more clear - whatever sells the most is what they should be making more of.

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By Wet Guy - uu Sun 13/11/16 01:37:31 GMT

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Hi all -

 

Now I would be in the top 1% in the US - you know, the people that have too much money and don't pay enough tax to finance the welfare state as they say  Be that as it may

 

But even with that, I buy what I think provides value.  I would subscribe to a lot of sites and buy a lot more clips if they were more reasonably priced,  I personally think the the sweetspot for a subscription  is about $9 per month with a 30 day minimum.  If you have great stuff a d terrific updates people will continue.  But these 90 day subscriptions for big prices for what you show on this site is sort of ridiculous.  Leon's site is awesome (Mostwam TV)  and for the volume of stuff he offers and continuous updates is well worth the price (I am a subscriber.)  But when I look at others here there is no compelling volume of offerings or just the same old stuff.  You other producers have to get real ... if you have great stuff, offer it at a reasonable price and keep providing it with great updates,   If you don.t, quit with the 90 day minimums and just offer your stuff for a cheap price on clips for sale.

 

 

Don't misunderstand - I applaud your energy to produce wetlook content, but c'mon, we're not stupid.  Offer it at a reasonable price and you will get many more sales.  I am just trying to help you make more money!

 

Just my opinion.  My fellow wetookers - what do you think?

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