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Subject: None Good point!

Date: Mon 25/01/16 12:14:30 GMT

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Point taken... sadly it's all about racism. If Flint was a white majority city of that size in California, this woulnd't last a day. But it's a bit of a different issue. For people to protest for someone else it takes a lot. For them to protest something which is actually hurting (in any sense) themselves it takes less. But all in all yes, Germany is a better place to live than the USA also in my opinion. I love my country, but the main issue here is safety. Germany is one of the safest countries when it comes to violent crime. The USA is definitely not.
In reply to Message (66412.1.1.1.1.1.1.1) None Re:And why are the people of Germany allowing this?

By wetrod - de Mon 25/01/16 07:14:49 GMT

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I like America but I prefer to live in Germany than in the United States. You say we should demonstrate against GEMA restrictions (it makes us angry, surely), but why don't demonstrate Americans when people need to drink poisoned water, because the government is the provision of clean drinking water too expensive? That's what happened in Flint / Michigan. In Germany unthinkable today! By contrast here would certainly be demonstrated. What's most important? Health or the right to be able to see everything in Youtube? Sorry for my bad English.

In reply to Message (66412.1.1.1.1.1.1) None Re:And why are the people of Germany allowing this?

By X_Wet_X - uu Sun 24/01/16 22:21:45 GMT

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There is one stereotype of Germans that is very true: it has a strong pro-work culture. After the decay of the civil rights movement from the 60s/70s due to the radicalization of some (look up German Autumn for the historical period), there was not any protest-culture left. If you protest, you don't work and if you don't work, you are lazy (it is the same as with strikes) . This view is very typical for other German speaking countries (I also lived in Austria for quite some time and Switzerland for a little while) and contrast strongly other countries I lived in like France, Italy or several Latin American countries (I really get around a lot). The usual phrase you hear (from the rest of the population and the media), when you are protesting is "don't you have anything better to do" or "isn't there another more important cause to rally for/against".
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By WetCasual - wetcasual@yahoo.com no Sun 24/01/16 18:27:44 GMT

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Strictly spoken, Germany in its current guise has only been a democracy since 1949.. 1990 for the former East Germany...
In reply to Message (66412.1.1.1.1) None And why are the people of Germany allowing this?

By MikeyABQ - us Sun 24/01/16 17:38:41 GMT

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I mean Germany is a quite old democracy. Why no protests like in the US when they try to limit liberties? So strange.
In reply to Message (66412.1.1.1) Info Re:Really? Wow, Germany got weird...

By X_Wet_X - uu Sun 24/01/16 12:44:31 GMT

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Yes, the copyright policies and GEMA ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEMA_%28German_organization%29 - I am surprised that the English Wikipedia article on this organisation is so long) are crazy. I know German bands who upload their own music-video on youtube (even provide a link on their website) and one can't few it in Germany. Although I am German, I spent very little of my life in Germany. However about 2 years ago I lived in Germany again (for work for about a year) and the blocking of so much content on youtube was really annoying. In my time there, I learned quite a few work-arounds like using VPN or a Firefox-add on called "youtube unblocker" (which uses proxies).

 

Also another crazy thing in Germany are the copyright lawyers (I've heard it gotten better recently due to some verdicts). You can watch a video on say Youporn (usually they target porn-sites, because the expect the least resistance there), and it turns out that it was not a legal upload (somebody has uploaded a copyrighted video without permission). You watched it without knowning this fact (most videos on Youporn are legal uploads by porn-produces in the same way the wetlook-produces provide a few free images here to attract potential clients), but those lawyers threaten to sue you by sending you a bill (which is a demand for reparation for your illegal viewing plus their legal fees). It is basically extortion covered. Luckily a few dared not to pay and went to court (which is risky, because if you loose it can get really expensive) and managed to get some verdicts to shut down most of those lawyers.

In reply to Message (66412.1.1) Question Really? Wow, Germany got weird...

By MikeyABQ - us Sun 24/01/16 11:01:09 GMT

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I mean the weirdness can be seen in the almost total lack of Streetview, while countries both west and east have total coverage. Then I've heard of the music videos. But movies also? Wow. Don't you wanna protest and hit the streets? I mean the sheer inaccessibility of almost all media would probably make Americans hit the streets, and if not that I would have thought German youth would have enough when Poland, which Germany always looked down upon as poor and underdeveloped, started being the more normal one when it comes to digital access - there almost nothing is blocked on YouTube (actually one of the better countries - with the fewest "blocked in your county") and Streetview has total coverage etc.
In reply to Message (66412.1) Angry Nothing to see in gemany...f... the GEMA [nt]

By youngwetfan - de Sun 24/01/16 08:12:12 GMT

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By Malvineous - mrnemesis@ntlworld.com gb Sat 23/01/16 13:53:45 GMT

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Hm, not sure where last night's post got to ... posting this again:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EfS8fFi9BY&t=43m

 

I already had this as a clip, but it was quite low resolution and with no sound.

 

It appears that the girl in question decided against wearing a bra, as does another girl, so I guess bras were out in 1984 ...

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