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Message # 5814.1.3.1

Subject: Re: Re: Well said =)

Date: Wed 10/09/03 09:36:02 GMT

Name: -Manta-

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You litterally took the words out of me ; excellent points, I agree with you fully ; Artists only get 8-15 % of their CD sales ; they MAKE the money on tour, the music industry itself is more to blame, and it's about time we can do something about it - here's the cool part : CDs from Universal are promised to drop to $12.99 - for new CDs! - Seeing the power of us over a ruthless (in many cases through history) multi-billion dollar industry.. I think we're winning =) Just my change for a nickel -

-Manta / Chris-

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Re: It's called stealing

By Chris - Wed 10/09/03 05:54:15 GMT

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I've got to agree with David on this one. Downloading copyright protected media may be at the very fringes of legality, but I do believe that the distinction lies in the fact that the media is not being sold. You say it's no different than walking into a music store and walking out with a CD without paying for it. I say it's no different than borrowing my friends CD to make a mix tape. If you think making a mix tape is just as illegal...well, you'd be entitled to that opinion, but I'd disagree with you in so many ways on that it's not worth the time/bandwidth/etc.

In addition, I must say that the development of Kazaa and other file sharing software is a very interesting and well deserved kick in the teeth to the music industry. They've raised CD prices over and over and over again, concert ticket prices have gone through the roof & reached obsurd hieghts, but now we're supposed to feel sorry for those who make more money in a year than I will see in ten, 20 years or possibly a lifetime? I don't think so. Yes, one could argue that it hurts the small, up and coming artist...but they're the ones who would benefit the most from the spread of their music! It's one more way to get recognized. Besides, I'd be willing to bet that most of the music downloaded are the most popular (and thus, luctrative) songs.

Keep in mind, the music industry does not turn very much of a profit on CD sales anyway. They make the big $ in tours and merchandising on tour.

My last point gets back to the theft & legality issue. It's up to the copyright holder to protect their product! Look at the wetlook sites that are pay sites. They don't say "Please don't click here on the 'members' link if you're not a member." NO! They protect their content, via technology, by requiring a password. The music industry has to invest a little green in R&D and protect their copyright electronically, technologically.

Sorry for the rant. I just find it difficult to remain silent on this issue, even if I do get flamed. Now, if only we could find a "Kazaa" for gasoline, we could tell OPEC (the biggest organized crime, price-fixing & larceny syndicate in the world) to shove it where the sun don't shine!

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It's called stealing

By Anon - Wed 10/09/03 01:59:33 GMT

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Simple as that. It is no different than walking into a store, pulling a CD off the shelf, slipping it in your pocket and walking out the door. Songs and videos are the products that artists sell in order to make a living.

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Off topic but read......

By Zamboni - Wed 10/09/03 00:06:12 GMT

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Whats going on with people in america dowloading music and getting find for it? I have sheadloads and am now thinking of moving it all off the hard drive but this has to be a last resort! Are the people using Kazzaa or Kazzaa light like i am? I would be be sh***ng myself now if i was in america! Is this likly to come over to o'l Blighty?

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