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Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: WAM awards- voting just begun

Date: Tue 09/09/03 13:43:52 GMT

Name: MK

Email: wamtec@compuserve.com

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I know for a fact that there is quite a bit of unreleased footage that Rob shot over the years that he never got around to releasing. For starters, in 1994 when Rob came down to visit me that year, we had dug a 16 ft mud pit on my property and were shooting lots of mud and gunge scenes that year, and Rob wanted to use our models to shoot some scenes for his videos too, and so we arranged for him to do that and I helped Rob shoot some of these mud scenes in the mud pit, operating a 2nd camera for him...and none of those scenes he shot where I helped him were ever edited or released. Also, a friend of mine (pie producer Lenny Sorge) commissioned Rob to make a blockbuster pie fight scene for him, and that shoot was completed only a few weeks before he died...and Lenny was delivered the raw footage (and still has it) but Rob never had the chance to edit and release it. Lenny should probably make arrangements (seeing as he has the raw footage) to edit and release that pie scene as a tribute to Rob, cos it was the last shoot he ever did.

Rob had several projects in the works that never got completed. As those who knew Rob well know, Rob was a diehard Star Trek fan...and he had begun work on a slapstick version of Star Trek cos it was his favorite tv show.

I met Rob several times on our shoots, and he was very gratious and willing to help us out with staging and to be a part of the camera crew. Always willing to help out -- he did the same thing in the UK too...cos he would visit Roger's Aquantics wet & messy conventions in the UK in the early 90's and help Bill, David, Mike and Roger make their videos too.

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By Vixenwitch - Tue 09/09/03 08:55:21 GMT

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While I largely agree with you, I don't think it's entirely true there have been no new shoots, there is an internal forum on the MF site, and the old Yahoo group (which Rob started way back when it was still egroups) was still running with some of the current models posting to it earlier this year.

I would agree totally that the legacy wasn't carried on though, as all the new material I did see (from the paysite) was totally hopeless from a clothed WAM pov, clearly the people producing the material do not understand the genre at all. On top of that the person who originally edited the existing footage for the paysite made a total hash of it in places, things like missing out entirely the point where a girl went from clean to messed.

There was talk about releasing Rob's unedited footage (of which I gather there is considerably more than was ever put out on tape), don't know if it ever came to anything.

I never met Rob in the flesh, only on-line, but even so he came across as one of the nicest people I ever had the privilige of writing to, and a real gentleman to boot. He always made you feel welcome and was never too busy to talk to people. It's three years since he died, he is still missed.

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By MK - wamtec@compuserve.com Mon 08/09/03 13:28:44 GMT

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Thats true...Rob Blaine is/was a legend not to be forgotten. FYI, they did mention his website in the lifetime awards (i.e. messyfun) but they must have forgotten his name since messyfun was sold to another company 3 years ago and has been managed by a different webmaster (an upskirts and panties producer from outside the genre) who does not participate in the wam forums...nor has he done anything to carry on Rob's legacy, cos since Rob passed away 3 years ago the new owner has not done any new shoots at all...all he has done with messy fun is to redesign the website and carry his old stocks...but no new videos have been created...which is a shame, cos Rob was the main man who started it all in the USA...but his legacy has not been continued and the website is largely stagnant.

I worked with Rob on several video shoots...he would fly down to Florida often to help us out with camera work on some of our shoots, and he was a great guy to know.

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By WETINRED - stekz@cableone.net Mon 08/09/03 09:58:07 GMT

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did we forget about Mr.Blain?(RIP,Rob) He, in my book should b up for a lifetime achievement as he was the one who turned me on to wam

as so many others!

But those of us who know u, Kev, And G, Ya'll tops in my book Ain't no one better at than ya'll sorry, I keep trying to lose this tex. accent

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By Kev - kev.styx@ntlworld.com Mon 08/09/03 07:23:39 GMT

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And I notice MK is in the hunt for the lifetime achievement award.

Apart from MK and Roger Carpenter, not sure how many of the others have been in the business a "lifetime". If some of the people on there have spent a lifetime in the WAM business, it must mean that most of the producers of WAM are under 10 years old : )

I guess that a lifetime in the WAM business must equate to somethink like the lifespan of a moth.....lol

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