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Subject: None Re:wetlooksex.com - stopped?

Date: Sat 06/04/13 18:46:52 GMT

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Hi Anthony......that sounds like a terrific idea for a website that you or somebody could create.

 

You define a "need"...and then see how many supporters will support that "need".....e.g. 40 people making $10 pledges.....so you gather data on "pledges" for certain styles or genres or clothing preferences....

 

and then once a subject matter has reached a certain pledge level.....then you allow any wetlook producer to "bid" on that pledge....and the lowest bidder wins that assignment.

 

There is a reality tv show on tv just like that....called SHIPPING WARS....i.e. somebody wants their piano shipped from New York to Atlanta....so they enter their data to a brokers website...and then all the truckers can check the brokers site and bid on that assignment...and the lowest bidder takes on the asignment and delivers the goods.

 

So basically....you could become a "wetlook brokerage site"....where you broker the deal for people who want certain things done...and then any wetlook producer can bid on that project and the lowest bidder gets the assignment and delivers copies of that media to all those people who entered the brokers pool of mini pledge sponsors.

 

Thats one of the reasons I have always lobbied Nigel to add more features to this forum......so we can conduct POLLS on this forum and producers can see that data on what people want the producers to do. So...the producers needs to see some polling data or some pledges of support, before they can know whether there is enough interest to take on certain projects etc.

 

MK

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By AnthonyX - anthonyx@jowc.net ca Sat 06/04/13 00:41:44 GMT

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Just to throw in a little more confusion Wink Smile

 

I seem to have similar tastes as PD when it comes to wetlook attire, and while I like the IDEA of couples at play, fully and nicely clothed in the water, I'd rather watch solo girl or girl/girl than male/female.

 

MK, your points about the economics of fetish video production are well taken. I can't speak for anyone else, but the "closer to the mark" a scene is for me, the greater premium I'd be prepared to pay. Of course, there's always a limit, which brings us right back to the equation you have to solve... price per sale x units sold <=> cost to produce.

 

I had an idea a while back for a funding model very similar to "crowd funding". The idea would go something like this:

 

Write up scene descriptions, possibly with candidate model pictures and costuming choices, and with a defined funding goal (based on budget) attached. Like crowdfunding, anyone wishing to fund the scene pays whatever they choose toward the budget. When the target budget is reached, you slot the scene into your production schedule. Anyone funding the scene in this way gets a copy, plus a share of the profit from general sales (which gets paid out if it accumulates to a worthwhile amount, otherwise remains "banked"). If the budget isn't reached by a specified cut-off date, the funding is returned. If you have identified some models who could perform in the scenes, the "community" could be solicited for ideas about what they'd be wearing/doing, where, etc..

 

It could take some of the guesswork out of what will sell, and would guarantee you at least a break-even since you'd have your budget paid for before you start.

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By MK - wamtec@comcast.net us Fri 05/04/13 16:42:27 GMT

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This is the essence of the problem we face....i.e. we only have 3-4 people who like well dressed wetlook sex scenes.....and 1 person who likes casual attire wetlook sex scenes.....and we can do both styles....but nether of those groups of fans are sufficient to support what it costs to hire professional xxx models and do those scenes.....cos we need to see at least 30-40 people interested in something before it becomes viable to do. This is why Tainster (AllWam) changed their direction and started doing less and less clothing scenes and just focused more on their mainstream all nude "skin" scenes instead.  Tainster have great production values and they can do amazing things for a very low cost because they are based in the Czech Republic where hiring  adult models is very easy and cheap to do. I can only hire XXX models in Florida, where model fees are 4-5 times more than the Czech Republic is. FYI most of the scenes you see on the Wetlook Sex site were shot in Hungary, where I hired an agent and camera guy in Budapest to recruit and shoot Hungarian adult models for us. Unfortunately, for some reason Hungarian models are 2-3 times more expensive to hire than Czech models, and by the time I paid for the agency fees and their services, I might as well have just hired U.S. models and shot the scenes myself in Florida (which I do for my Liquisex site).

 

If anybody wants to be a partner with me on doing a new series of wetlook sex media let me know. We know lots of XXX models in South Florida and we can shoot whatever folks want to see. FYI, we are currently hiring 4 adult models for a new series of XXX pool shoots we will be conducting starting on April 17th this month....but our current plan is to shoot underwater sex scenes with those models, because we have a large base of underwater sex fans who will buy that media.....and we just do not see a large base of wetlook sex fans willing to support shooting wetlook sex scenes.....so we plan to do lots of new underwater sex scenes on April 17th....and those will be nude models or girls engaging in sex wih scuba gear....cos that is what our base of customers wants us to do.

 

Our business is no different to the automobile industry......i.e. manufacturers can only make popular cars that lots of people want to buy.....and expensive cars like the "Fisker" sports car  are not viable  when nobody wants to buy that car.  The only person who likes the Fisker sports car ....is actor Leonardo di Caprio...and the only reason he likes that car.....is because he was given the car as a FREE GIFT.....but that does not make that car viable to produce etc.

 

MK

 

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By PD - us Thu 04/04/13 22:20:02 GMT

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As a supporter of "wetlook sex" I also miss the site.  I have not bought all the video's since my preference is for well dressed  Male/Female couples using wet clothing as a (major) part of foreplay, something like AllWam occasionally does, but using male/female actors engaged in erotic wet clothed foreplay.

My preference for clothing is more general:  Both should be well dressed, and both should get wet during foreplay.  I find that a woman in a wet long sleeved cotton dress is more erotic than the same woman in wet shorts and T shirt.  A woman in a skirted suit with blouse underneath can be more erotic than if she is dressed in a spaghetti strap dress. Fully and completely dressed including bra and panties is more erotic than if she is dressed in only a dress with nothing underneath (Fully clothed adds a bit of spontaneity that I don't get if it looks like she dressed only to get wet).

Adding accessories such as shoes, hose, jewelry, hat, and gloves can complete the spontaneous image, which I find can be extremely erotic, especially when the actors enjoy each other, and their wet clothes.

I hope you find enough support to produce more Male/female wetlook sex, because I do enjoy different interpretations of the subject.  If not, at least Tainster is still doing some well dressed wetlook sex.

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By MK - wamtec@comcast.net us Thu 04/04/13 15:15:18 GMT

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Tks for the feedback.

 

We are willing to do whatever folks want us to do....using whatever clothings they prefer.....but there needs to be a sizeable demand for whatever folks want.

 

It it is up to the fans of whatever style of clothing they prefer.....to rally together and give us a show of hands......and once we can see 80 hands (40 people) lobbying for a certain kind of clothing or style of shooting.....then we can go into production and start to produce whatever folks want us to do.

 

Basically, any kind of video can be made, so long as the models are over 18....and when there are 30-40 people known to be interested in that subject, we can start producing a video series along those lines. If there are less than 30 people interested in a certain style or clothing.....then it becomes a "custom video"....i.e. a video where we will gladly shoot what the customer wants, but they must sponsor us for the model fees and production costs to have that scene made....which is rather costly. The XXX scenes are also more costly to do because you are required by U.S. law to get a lot more documentions and medical test reports to be kept on file....i.e. you can't just any hire any amateur girl to do XXX scenes, cos in the USA you have to not only make sure you have all the documentions proving they are over 18, you must also comply with State laws that require all adult models to be tested for AIDS every 6 months, and you can't hire a model unless they provide you with a copy of their most recent Aids test certificate from a Doctor. Therefore you have to hire adult models thru the proper channels and get all the documents for your records, and this makes the costs at least 4-5 times higher than shooting non nude wetlook videos models etc, FYI, the typical hiring fees for an adult boy/girl couple in the USA is normally around $1500 to $2000 per scene......with the girl always getting paid TWICE as much as the guy does. Thats one of the ironies about the adult industry....i.e. there is no equal pay for men or equality for men.....the women always get paid 2-3 times more than the guy does.....so the guy does most of the work and the girl just lays there...and she gets twice as much pay as the guy does....ha ha. It is the same thing in the runway Fashion world too.....the female models always make 2-3 times more than the male models on the catwalk.

 

This is why I gave up being a male porn star and male model and became a producer instead....ha ha....just kidding.

 

BTW,....there is a reason why Tainster and other sites tend to use lingerie and sexy clothing for sex scenes....as opposed to jeans.....i.e.  EASY ACCESS.....cos it is not easy to have sex wearing a tight pair of jeans.

 

There was a reason that Jimmy Saville never wore a pair of proper pants in his entire life.......and only wore tracksuit bottoms all his life.......i.e. it was easy for him drop them at a hat and pull them back up again if somebody entered the room......a sad fact....but true.

 

It is a lot easier to do a sex scene with lingerie than wth a girl in tight pair of jeans. Leggings would be a lot easier.

 

MK

 

 

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By wetsweats - ex Thu 04/04/13 00:24:15 GMT

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i would be interested in joining wetlook sex, but from what you've done so far, it's just not my bag. In my opinion, it's much the same as the tainster sites, all the girls wear smart clothing and satin shirts or whatever.

 

I've always wanted casual clothes, like tshirts, sweatshirts and hoodies, and thats simply not out there or very rare.

 

But I admire you trying something new :-)

 

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By MK - wamtec@comcast.net us Tue 02/04/13 18:14:44 GMT

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Hi Alex

 

I am the creator of the WetlookSex site. This was an experimental project I started, to see if there was an interest in the harder and more erotic style of wetlook sex. People seemed to rave about the Allwam site and their wetlook xxx media, but kept complaing that Allwam were changing direction and were focusing too much on the sex and less and less on the clothing aspects. So I thought I would try to pick up where Allwam left off....and see if there was sufficient interest from wetlook xxx fans to support the hiring costs for professional adult models engaging in wetlook XXX scenes while in clothings etc.  

 

Sadly, the response and sales at the site have been very poor, and were not enough to even cover half of our costs to hire these models and produce these scenes.

 

Basically.....a website lives or dies based on the number one law of economics.....i.e. we can easily produce rand "supply" media for the fans....that is easy....but there needs to be a "demand" and willingness for sufficient customers to buy that media in order to sustain the operating costs etc.

 

This is no different to tv shows on mainstream tv....the ones with high viewership and high ratings continue to new seasons...and those tv shows with low viewership get cancelled if they fail to meet budget exoectations etc.

 

We appreciate that you and 2-3 other folks like the site....but we need at least 100 more folks to show an interest before we can hire models and shoot more scenes.

 

I am not giving up on the site and closing it down right now....I have merely put the site "on hiatus" for now....and I am planning to update the site with some more updates very soon.

 

I am exploring the idea of changing the site into a new media format. I am also looking for some sponsors to help me with the high costs of producing each scene....so if you or other wetlook sex fans want to help you can sponsor some custom scenes to be done, and all you have to do

is drop me an email and tell me what you want our models to do, and cover the costs to hire the models, and we will produce those scenes for you or other wetlook sex fans etc.

 

Anyway....the site is not dead....it is merely paused or on hiatus for now....until I can see more support from the wetlook sex fans or figure out a way to finance a new series of shoots with our models. We still have some new shoots not posted yet....so we will post those new scenes very soon.

 

MK

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By littlealex - uu Mon 01/04/13 17:40:38 GMT

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There hasn't been an update on www.wetlooksex.com since November. Is the site dead?

 

I will never understand why there isn't more harder wetlook stuff out there. Wet T Shirts etc are always popular so why aren't they featured in porn more. Ah well....


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