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Subject: Info Re:Producers should read this, then talk with us...

Date: Thu 12/04/12 19:22:54 GMT

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Several visitors in this very good forum are thinking that things could find some renewal. We have very professional producers doing good job with movie making and editing. - Respect. - But read this, please...

  

 

1 ) Producers are making good movies but sometimes the models don't play enough during the shoot.

Producers are able to reach a very good quality of the lighting, the pictures. It's a real mark of respect for the customers.

But the storyboard is poor... and it's a little boring. No renewal...

 

On mostwam, we only have the summer to shoot all the media needed to keep the site going in the winter, we are limited by the weather and girl availability.  So the only way to fulfil our commitment to weekly updates all year long is to shoot one girl scenes.  With 208 shoots to do each year so each mostwam site has enough updates, it is the ONLY way.  We tried 2 girl shoots a year ago, it made no diference to the sales, cost losts of money to produce, twice as much, it also meant we wasted loads of sunny days because we couldn't get two girls available.

Mostwam, has a section called "Other Stuff" in the Download Store where we can try out new ideas on a Payper view basis.  So can try new stuff there if we get the time.

 

We also have:

http://wamthroughyou.com which contains wetlook.

We also tried a gameshow wetlook special on TopGunge:

http://topgunge.com/store.html?episode=32

 

Any move to a completely new concept of shoot such as you suggest would only be done on a Pay Per View basis, as weekly updates for such a concept would be an impossible commitment.

 

2) It will be happy to see producers creating 3 kinds of categories : A) wetlook alone B) wetlook with soap C) wam and destructive

Here we have 3 different tastes. An advice could be to create separate accounts for these different tastes and to advertise more about it. As an example when you go on UMD.net you have 80 % messy,

15 % wetlook and 5 % soapy... (amout of global productions) :-(

 

Again, we already have 4 different concepts on mostwam

1 Wet Jeans and Trousers www.jeansandtrousers.com

2 Wet Skirts and Dresses www.streetsplash.com

3 Muddy content www.lotsofmud.com

4 messy content www.propermessy.com

 

To break these down further and provide weekly updates would be impossible, for every new concept, it is 52 extra shoots per year on a membership basis, this can only be done on a payperview basis!!!!

 

3) As future new customers, it's not easy to know what you will find on a website, before subscribing. Samples and full storyboard pictures are really a big incentive to subscribe.

Pix don't need to be big, but should show full action, so one can judge if it is for his tastes or not. Scenarii all need a good renewal, but producers have won a tribute to the quality of their works. Some new

ideas ARE MISSING... BE SOFT, please, (in a world of violence and darkness).

 

We provide plenty of previews, what is available in the site is very well represented by our previews, people know exacly what they will get before they join, no change needed!!!!

 

4) Here we have a good website, and moreover there are really good samples of what you can find.

Models are going into a pool, with chlorine.

http://splashinfashion.com/Galleries/2011/Tiffany/TiffanyJeans2%20%284%29.jpg , http://splashinfashion.com/Galleries/2011/Tiffany/TiffanyJeans2%20%2824%29.jpg , http://splashinfashion.com/ModelsPages/Tanya.htm , http://splashinfashion.com/Galleries/09Shoots/TanyaJeans1%20%2819%29.jpg , http://splashinfashion.com/Galleries/2010%20img/HeatherJeans1ts%20%286%29.jpg , http://splashinfashion.com/Galleries/2010%20img/HeatherJeans1ts%20%2820%29.jpg

This chlorine can damage the outfits they had, so I am nearly sure they have taken a shower after exiting to rinse them. It would have been so easy to add some shampoo and soap and shoot another clip to

show the wear and wash process. Please, shoot again some clips doing so ! I will be a subscriber immediately - and may be I will not be alone.

 

Hate to break this to you, but in general, the amount of chlorine in an avaerage swimming pool does NO damage to most clothes, even Hot Tubs, which have to have a higher chlorine level than pools due to the water temperature, have never damaged the girls outfits.

As for the previews, same as above!!  We have both video and photo previews available for peopkle to see exactly what they will get before they join!

 

5) Good examples with dare games on youtube : Some times one can find "clothed bubbles baths", "soapy showers", "wear and wash", "dare" games. But only with under aged people or men / cross dressed.

 In these cases I never watch and it can't be posted here - what is perfectly normal. It's sad because the way this wetlook is made is the new way to follow... AND IT IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.

 

As mentioned above we did a whole Game Show of wetlook:

http://topgunge.com/store.html?episode=32

The more this sort of stuff sells, the more likely we are to produce more.

 

6) Stories can inspire sometimes : http://www.eddaardvark.co.uk/mmm/various.htm

"Summer shower", as an example...

Many stories on this page for wetlook fans...

 

This is the same as your first point???

As I said then, this can ONLY really be done on a pay per view basis or by a new producer who only shoots one site per year.

 

7) Good method in 3 points : When producers are wining money enough to pay the bill for the server and some advertising, they don't want to change the balance of economics. So they are frightened to try

new things, even if their models are nice and each shooting quite good. D) They should organize some votes, as an example, here, on this very good forum. E) They should put an e-mail link with a "SUGGEST IDEAS" for visitors. F) They should give storyboards / full snaps shoots to show what we are about to buy. These 3 ideas could change all the wetlook creation ON A VERY GOOD BASIS,

 for sane renewal... This said with friendship and respect.

 

We are making enough money to pay the bills each year.

We are also NOT affraid to try new things and have done more so than most, BUT only on a Pay Per View basis.

 

8) Nice example in french from the past : http://forum.minxmovies.com/showc.cgi?23972 - Re: 12 stories in a row clicking next ! http://forum.minxmovies.com/showc.cgi?23961

SO GOOD STORIES ! Unbelievable and forgotten there !

 

OK, back to the stories again!!!

See previos answers!

 

9) G) Ask people what they want H) Don't ignore potential customers

* It's a good idea to try something different

 

I don't think any producer would ignore potential customers, we don't!

 

* It's a good idea to make new things with old good recipes

 

Ys it is!

 

* It's a good idea to turn stories into videos

 

Yes, but not on a membership basis, the commitment is to much, fine for downloads.

 

* If you launch a new products you can create new customers

 

Which we keep doing!

 

* If you launch something different you can find that it is suiting a need

 

But is it worth it for us?  We don''t know, the only way to do so is to try on pay per view.

 

* Small business niches can work fine for a long time has their potential have not been foreseen before

 

Don't really understand that?

 

I don't understand why there is status quo in this universe. That's why many websites close or don't meet success.........   

 

It is because they try something and it does not make enough money to continue!!!!

If something new is tried and it does not work, then it is a failure and can not continue and that is also the answer to all of your points above!

 

I will add here my own point of view, 10) Some models sometimes are making both messy and "soapy wetlook", but it is not the same sensibility, the same art of doing it. But they do. Okay, why not ? But I will suggest - as a gentle favor - that wetlook should be done in a more glamour way, and less coarse one. More funny, more details, more time to do it. More faces and chests. Less jeans back-part (to be polite) and legs, even if we can have and like to behold this too. The ratio is not good ! The smiling face of an angel soaping the front of her blouse 2 minutes is more fun than an a......

 

Then please go and do it!

All of the producers here started by shooting what they wanted to see because they could not find it already.

To me it seems like this is a request for your own specific wants, posted in a way that you are telling us how to run our businesses.  This is probably just a language thing, I assume you are using a translate programme to write this.

Best option for you is to either make waht you want yourself, or e-mail specific producers to ask if they will produce it for you.

 

leonmoomin

 

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In reply to Message (53981) Peace Man Producers should read this, then talk with us...

By many of us - us Thu 12/04/12 14:49:13 GMT

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Several visitors in this very good forum are thinking that things could find some renewal. We have very professional producers doing good job with movie making and editing. - Respect. - But read this, please...

 

1 ) Producers are making good movies but sometimes the models don't play enough during the shoot.

 

     Producers are able to reach a very good quality of the lighting, the pictures. It's a real mark of respect for the customers.

 

     But the storyboard is poor... and it's a little boring. No renewal...

 

 

 

2) It will be happy to see producers creating 3 kinds of categories : A) wetlook alone B) wetlook with soap C) wam and destructive

 

    Here we have 3 different tastes. An advice could be to create separate accounts for these different tastes and to advertise more about it. As an example when you go on UMD.net you have 80 % messy,

 

    15 % wetlook and 5 % soapy... (amout of global productions) :-(

 

 

 

3) As future new customers, it's not easy to know what you will find on a website, before subscribing. Samples and full storyboard pictures are really a big incentive to subscribe.

 

    Pix don't need to be big, but should show full action, so one can judge if it is for his tastes or not. Scenarii all need a good renewal, but producers have won a tribute to the quality of their works. Some new

 

    ideas ARE MISSING... BE SOFT, please, (in a world of violence and darkness).

 

 

 

4) Here we have a good website, and moreover there are really good samples of what you can find.

 

    Models are going into a pool, with chlorine.

 

http://splashinfashion.com/Galleries/2011/Tiffany/TiffanyJeans2%20%284%29.jpg , http://splashinfashion.com/Galleries/2011/Tiffany/TiffanyJeans2%20%2824%29.jpg , http://splashinfashion.com/ModelsPages/Tanya.htm , http://splashinfashion.com/Galleries/09Shoots/TanyaJeans1%20%2819%29.jpg , http://splashinfashion.com/Galleries/2010%20img/HeatherJeans1ts%20%286%29.jpg , http://splashinfashion.com/Galleries/2010%20img/HeatherJeans1ts%20%2820%29.jpg

 

 

 

   This chlorine can damage the outfits they had, so I am nearly sure they have taken a shower after exiting to rinse them. It would have been so easy to add some shampoo and soap and shoot another clip to

 

   show the wear and wash process. Please, shoot again some clips doing so ! I will be a subscriber immediately - and may be I will not be alone.

 

 

 

5) Good examples with dare games on youtube : Some times one can find "clothed bubbles baths", "soapy showers", "wear and wash", "dare" games. But only with under aged people or men / cross dressed.

 

    In these cases I never watch and it can't be posted here - what is perfectly normal. It's sad because the way this wetlook is made is the new way to follow... AND IT IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.

 

 

 

6) Stories can inspire sometimes : http://www.eddaardvark.co.uk/mmm/various.htm

 

    "Summer shower", as an example...

 

    Many stories on this page for wetlook fans...

 

 

 

7) Good method in 3 points : When producers are wining money enough to pay the bill for the server and some advertising, they don't want to change the balance of economics. So they are frightened to try

 

    new things, even if their models are nice and each shooting quite good. D) They should organize some votes, as an example, here, on this very good forum. E) They should put an e-mail link with a

 

    "SUGGEST IDEAS" for visitors. F) They should give storyboards / full snaps shoots to show what we are about to buy. These 3 ideas could change all the wetlook creation ON A VERY GOOD BASIS,

 

     for sane renewal... This said with friendship and respect.

 

 

 

8) Nice example in french from the past : http://forum.minxmovies.com/showc.cgi?23972 - Re: 12 stories in a row clicking next ! http://forum.minxmovies.com/showc.cgi?23961

 

    SO GOOD STORIES ! Unbelievable and forgotten there !

 

 

 

9) G) Ask people what they want H) Don't ignore potential customers

 

    * It's a good idea to try something different

 

    * It's a good idea to make new things with old good recipes

 

    * It's a good idea to turn stories into videos

 

    * If you launch a new products you can create new customers

 

    * If you launch something different you can find that it is suiting a need

 

    * Small business niches can work fine for a long time has their potential have not been foreseen before

 

    I don't understand why there is status quo in this universe. That's why many websites close or don't meet success.........   

 

I will add here my own point of view, 10) Some models sometimes are making both messy and "soapy wetlook", but it is not the same sensibility, the same art of doing it. But they do. Okay, why not ? But I will suggest - as a gentle favor - that wetlook should be done in a more glamour way, and less coarse one. More funny, more details, more time to do it. More faces and chests. Less jeans back-part (to be polite) and legs, even if we can have and like to behold this too. The ratio is not good ! The smiling face of an angel soaping the front of her blouse 2 minutes is more fun than an a......

 

   Thank you for reading.

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