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Subject: Re:...here is an open invitation to Suwammer

Date: Wed 14/12/11 23:41:11 GMT

Name: MK

Email: wamtec@comcast.net

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Oh....I am pretty sure that if there was a poll conducted on this forum and on Graham's forum you will find a high degree of interest in your episodic vignettes.

Basically many wetlook fans like to feast on "hamburgers" (standard youtube clips) and there are also many connoisseurs who want something more than "hamburger clips" and they yearn for some "filet mignon" clips that are in HD quality and with top models and lavish production values.

This is why producers like Tarzan, UFA, Leon, Graham, Erik Elsas and Flaviu are well regarded....cos they define their own style and niche, and then they execute things in high quality.

The problem with the wetlook world these days....is that there is far too much pabulum on Youtube, so the fans are overdosing on too much pabulum and this is causing some fans to become bored and complacent and to take wetlook for granted ....i.e. they expect to be spoonfed with youtubes every day.... so that means that the wetlook producers now have to pull all the stops out and be at the top of their game, just to try and offer folks something that can't be found on Youtube.

The problem with "expensive wetlook" as you define it, is that none of the wetlook producers I know have won the lottery or are wealthy people, so in order to spend relatively large budgets in order to produce high quality content (as Leon and Flaviu always do) none of the wetlook producers can do the kinds of high quality expensive wetlook scenes without some financial support from the fans. We are not "Youtube"....who can afford to make all videos free, cos they are getting 40 million dollars per month in advertising revenues. We have to ask our fans for some level of patronage where they will support the costs we incur to hire the girls, buy the outfits, book the locations et al. This is why there are no high quality wetlook producers who are able to do what you have been doing....,.i.e. posting everything for free on Youtube,.... cos we can't do that....but instead, we do give away many free clips and extracts and photos as much as we can.

So....the real question is not whether folks like expensive wam (filet mignon) but whether they are willing to support and patronize you.....which I think they will....cos the wetlook customers I know also like to support the high quality producers like Erik Elsas, Leon, UFA, Flaviu, Tarzan, Stx etc....so there is an interest in high quality wetlook...and you just need to create your own style that is different to others etc.

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Re:...here is an open invitation to Suwammer

By MRSUWAMMER - Wed 14/12/11 21:33:35 GMT

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Thanks MK I think i have my own personal censor where youtube, vimeo and flicker are concerned, My record for a deletion is 8 views on flickr for inapropriate content and have been under suspension from youtube for a couple of months, I am in the process of moving away from airline uniforms towards something else i have wanted to do, Ladies in tweed outfits with pearls and silk scarfs in wet and messy situations You can host them if you think there is an interest for very expensive wam. I will email you in the new year, MrSUWAMMER

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...here is an open invitation to Suwammer

By MK - wamtec@comcast.net Wed 14/12/11 19:55:02 GMT

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This is the 3rd or 4th time Youtube have deleted his account, and he has been deleted from Vimeo in the past too.

One of the ridiculous claims Youtube makes as a reason for deletion is "copyright infringement" ....which is not the case, cos these are his own original works that he owns the rights to....but I guess they are referring to the fact that he uses original airlines uniforms and some Airlines like BA and Virgin have filed complaints because he uses their uniforms....but that would not be an issue if he lived in the USA (instead of the UK) ...cos under U.S. law you can use original trademarked costumes in your own video productions under the concept of "parody"...cos parody is protected under the laws of free speech under the 1st Amendment of the U.S. consitution. For example....the actor Alec Baldwin got kicked off an American Airlines plane last week for refusing to turn off his cell phone and becoming the world class boorish a-hole that he always is....so they threw him off the plane.....so what does he do....3 days later he goes on the tv show 'Saturday Night Live" and dresses up in an American Airlines uniform and does a skit that mocks and berates American Airlines. Now...under UK law....he could be sued for slander....cos he was slandering American Airlines, but under U.S. law....they can't sue him or stop him from slandering American Airlines every day on Facebook and Twitter (as he has been doing in recent days)....calling their Airline a company "where Catholic school gym teachers from the 1950s find jobs as flight attendants"....and while American Airlines are upset that Baldwin keeps slandering their name and making a video wearing their uniform and mocking them.....there is nothing they can do to sue him....cos what Baldwin is doing is defined as "parody" and is protected free speech.

So....you can go on Youtube and find thousands of examples of people making videos using famous uniforms or costumes....especially Superhero costumes....and I have made many such videos myself using Alice in Wonderland or Wonder Woman or Hooters Girls costumes....and never received any complaints from Warner Brothers or other movie companies...cos in the USA you can do this under free speech parody protections.....but the UK there is no such thing a free speech law...you have no right to free speech (and I know that cos I am a Brit myself.....e.g. under UK law the government can slap a "D notice" and ban certain books or newspaper articles and impose censorship as it pleases).

So....my suggestion to MrSuwammer is.....try using flight attendants uniforms from NON British Airlines...cos the British Airlines can get UK authorities to prevent you from displaying their uniforms in what they may feel is an irreverent way.....so....try buying some uniforms from other Airlines that are not British....i.e. American companies or Asian airlines etc...cos they cannot file an objection the way that UK airlines can.

My other suggestion is....move your videos to a SAFE hosting company that will PROTECT your videos and will not delete them......cos you have no such protections when you host them at Youtube or Vimeo....who are not friendly towards wetlook producers.

I have made this invitation before....and I will make it again.....if you want to have a safe place to host your videos, where they will not get deleted....just drop me an email....cos I will offer to host them for you on my server.

Like the rest of the wetlook fans, I am looking forward to seeing more of your episodes too.

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SUWammer's Been Deleted From You Tube

By Forensic - Wed 14/12/11 15:15:52 GMT

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Although nothing had been added to SU Wammer's channel for 7 weeks, it's still irritating to learn that You Tube have plugged the plug. I was rather looking forward to seeing the other updates that were in the pipeline. A brilliant piece of Wetlook. The attention to detail and authenticity of the uniforms was second to none. The bloke is a master of his profession. Does anyone know where else his work might be found?

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