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Message # 43345.1

Subject: Re:In response to message from Rob on Message # 43300.1.1.1.1

Date: Tue 02/03/10 11:39:09 GMT

Name: George S.

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By WetlookU - webmaster@wetlookuniversity.com Tue 02/03/10 06:45:43 GMT

Website: http://www.wetlookuniversity.com

"I think I know what his problem is:

White shirts and jeans, jeans and white shirts, sometimes also white shirts with jeans, or maybe white shirts and jeans for a change...

Your site used to be GREAT and I have been a member several times - before it started to get so boring. Such a shame! I recall seeing some of the greatest sets on your site, without boring white shirts or (even worse) stupid topless shots. I really hope you'll eventually get back to the old times someday..."

RESPONSE

     I didn't take what he said that way and it didn't come off that way, at least to me, but that's fine...

     First, let me thank you for the good comments...If more would have been made at the time, might have helped matters some..  :)

     To understand some of this, you have to go back to 2002/2003 when I first started. At the time, I had a couple of girls shooting with me for another

site I had run since 1997. (I have been doing this for 12 years?? Geez!) Long story short, I asked them if they would be interested in shooting the wetlook

material and both said it sounded fun.  I made up my mind right then and there, I was going to shoot what I liked.  You have to remember or look back..

At the time, there were few, if ANY sites that shot casual clothes or jeans. After a year or two, many followed my lead (or fell into the same trap) and

began to do the same thing.  Not that I was unique by any means, but if you truly go back and look, I was one of the first for those type

sets and almost never strayed from that.  Since then, we have all seen many sites come and go.  I may even be gone sooner than anyone

might think too but we all go at some point..

     If my main desire was that I wanted more members, money, cash flow, ect., I would scrap the entire thing and start over shooting skirts, dresses, gowns, ect.  We have

from time to time but I have no plans to do that 100%.  I'm sure you'll find MANY more appreciate those type shoots than what I do.  It's them.though, It's not me..  

On the other hand, there are many like me that have the taste and likes I do.  At the time, I felt that was my "niche" market. Turns out, it was for years.

     As time has gone on, I have read and listened to comments, post, ect. about other variations.  A few examples of that are the "wet sock" fans.  

Okay, not for me and not for many, but from time to time, I'll shoot sets with those type photos included.  Another off the top of my head are Ugg boots.

I have some members that join or stay because of those and I receive many comments on using those.  Again, not for everyone but we include

those from time to time.  Many don't even notice or care if they aren't into that sort of thing.  Another thing I have tried to incorporate would

be the "shiny jeans" concept. I listened and learned and try to add at least a few photos in each set with a shiny jeans a$$ shot or "shiny jeans" in other ways.  

I've heard getting wet slowly vs. jumping or diving in, dark jeans vs. light jeans, see thru vs. non see thru, sneakers vs. heels, shoes with socks or "sockless",

jeans vs.skirts or dresses, young vs. "mature", Sportswear vs. street clothes and on and on and on.  Even down to reading comments here about the girls asking

"are they afraid to get their hair wet?" (No, most aren't LOL)

     Then comes the bra or braless issue.  Years back, there was always a debate or discussion going on from time to time on this forum about bras or braless.  

For me, the best bras are the ones left laying on the floor beside the bed whether it be under wet or dry conditions. LOL  Others, they almost require them to

be complete wetlook. We've shoot many of both over the years.  If braless wasn't popular, bras would be worn in Wet T-shirt contest :)  Which also brings me to white shirts.

Although there are different definitions of "wetlook", I would say generally it means "wet clothes".  My guess, there isn't a defininion out there that says

"Soaked or wet in colored shirts" or "Wet while wearing dresses" or any of the such.

     That brings me to the "topless" issue.  Some care for it, some don't.  The last set which I posted has 318 photos. Of the 318 photos in that set, 42 were topless.

That leaves 276 that weren't topless. The set before that contains 248 photos with none being topless. 3 weeks ago, out of the 229 photos, 50 were topless.

I could go on, but the majority of our sets don't include topless and certainly don't concentrate on that. You being a member before, and for others who are or were

members know, that each photo in our sets have thumbnails.  My thinking has always been "If they don't care for topless, then they can plainly see that the

photo is topless by the thumbnail" and not click on the full size photo. Those photos are almost always shot at the end of a set.  Again, that caters to some

which care for it and lets the ones that don't care for it decide.  I leave the topless issue to the girl we are shooting.  Some are okay with it, some want to

shoot some that way and others don't care to shoot them at all.  It's up to them.  So in short, looking at last weeks update, someone "offended" by topless could

have viewed 279 photos that weren't topless and moved on while others who like those type photos could go right on down the series of that set.

     A few months back, someone began listing links to "porno" with wetlook.  I asked on this forum then about adding more "adult" rated material at the end of each

set which might include oral with a "shot" to the wet clothes, face ect.  The response was split.  I've not pursued that at this ponit but may very well begin now

that it's getting warmer and we'll be starting back shooting wetlook sets and videos in the next few weeks.

   If I have learned nothing out of all this, (Old news really and not a new lesson but..) I can NOT and will NEVER make everyone happy.  It's not possible.

   You're welcome to respond here or privately what the "old times" were exactly as maybe I am missing something or just can't see the forest due to

the trees. I never thought of my site as a "great" site but again, thank you for the compliment.

   And in closing, I do see many white and transparent shirts in many of our latest sets. Sometimes, it just worked out that way. Maybe I should stay

closer to the funeral home and pick up more black outfits :)

   Who knows, maybe this will start a discussion as to what people DO want and expect and maybe I can learn even more. Either way, I would bet the farm,

there will never be a 100% consensus.

   I've run out of soap now, it's 7 AM and 22 hours without sleep is enough.. Good night :)