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Subject: Info Re: Wetlook Crawler

Date: Thu 18/06/09 23:13:38 GMT

Name: John uu

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Yes the legal situation is different in EU, but even so I think you'd do yourself a disservice by excluding anything that you've labelled 'candid'.    You could simply put in an opt-out option so that if anyone wants pictures of themselves or family or pictures they've taken to be excluded, they could do that.    They would then have to provide proof!    
In reply to Message (40519.3.1.1.1) Happy Re: Wetlook Crawler

By Jürgen - webmaster@ws-net.net de Thu 18/06/09 17:02:11 GMT

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Hello John!

 

Thank you for your help and your information. I will do my homework exact as you tell me, no question. :-)

 

But sorry, you are wrong with your understanding that "famous" people has more rights than "normal" ones. The opposite is the true. By the law of the EU those "famous" people are part of the open live. They can not stop pictures of their person. A "normal" person is not part of the open live and he is allowed to stop those pictures. This is a fact. But I think this discussion is not part of the originally theme, which has been the Wetlook Crawler, not the situation of candid pictures.

 

Your question about your own web site: No sorry, your web site is not part of our picture database yet, because we have started with the major important web sites (subjective, by our own understanding). If we would forget to include your site, you can use the "URL to the crawler" function and we will check your pictures very soon.

 

If you like to become a moderator for candid pictures (or your own work), you’re welcome.

 

Jürgen

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By John - uu Thu 18/06/09 16:32:06 GMT

Website: http://www.thejeanpool.com/


This reflects some odd notions on your part.   For one thing, many sites, like mine http://www.thejeanpool.com/ have a number of stills taken from videos.   Those are not really high quality images, so your assumption that high quality images come from the 'professional' sites is clearly mistaken.    By the way, is my site in your database or did you not even know it exists??

 

Another is that even famous people don't have much legal right to images taken of them in public, hence the papparazi and the magazines that publish their pictures.    Non-famous people have even less legal standing regarding their pictures taken in public.

 

So you really need to do some homework!

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By Jürgen - webmaster@ws-net.net de Thu 18/06/09 13:20:53 GMT

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Why no candit pictures?

 

Because it is technically impossible to detect if a candid picture is a real quality picture or not. Those pics don't have a producer. A producer's photo can be detected only by the web address where it comes from. If a pic is from Erik Elsas, Leonmoomin, WS net or Wetlook Online (only for example), it is a high quality picture. Candid picture would need to be checked each single pic, what is impossible for us. The quality of our database is the major important point for our project. If there will be a high number of low quality pics included, the complete project is dead.

 

Another point is that a very high number of candid pictures are simply illegal. They show people who has never been asked to get on a picture in the internet and get observed by thousands of man. We don't want to support this.

 

If anyone would like to be a moderator for our project and include links with legal high quality candid pictures, we will be very open to support this.

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By John - uu Thu 18/06/09 12:17:32 GMT

Website: http://www.thejeanpool.com/


Sounds good, but why exclude candid pictures?   How can software possibly know the difference between modeled and candid shots anyway?
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By Jürgen - webmaster@ws-net.net de Thu 18/06/09 10:18:21 GMT

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Wetlook Crawler

 

We have done a test development of a special wetlook picture search engine. Actually our crawler has detected 14000 free wetlook pictures, all professional source, no candid material. Those pictures would be available via link lists, based on search criteria’s and picture thumbnails, exact like the Google picture search engine works.

 

I would like to know if people would be interested, getting this Wetlook Crawler online and what the producers think about it. Plaese give me a feedback.

 

 

 

Here some important facts about the project:

 

Wetlook Crawler would be free for everyone, no charge for users and no charge for producers.

 

Wetlool Crawler is 100% legal. We only link to free pictures and we do not take any copy of pictures. We don’t include pictures in our web content (exact like Google picture search).

 

Each picture is combined with the producer name and web address and the web site where it has been crawled. Producers web site is always been shown parallel to the picture link (exact like Google picture search).

 

Each picture can include tags, comments and it can be voted by any user.

 

The search engine can find each tag, producer and web address and the combination of all of this. For example: “jeans wetlook art pool” would find all free jeans pictures of WetlookArt with has been shoot at a pool.

 

The “What’s new” function would give you an overview of new free pictures, sorted by producers and web sites. This function works full automatically, it would be the most up to date overview of new wetlook pictures of the net.

 

Producers can support Wetlook Crawler, by giving, tags, comments and updates if they like to do this. A VIP account would be available. Producers don’t need to support it, if they don’t like. All major functions work full automatically.

 

 

 

The Wetlook Crawler can only work, as long as the users support the producers. We give you the producers web site to each pictures and we are in hope, that you would book or buy sometimes a membership or picture set of your famous producers. That’s the only way it can work, because the free pictures has all been shoot by the producers. They give it to you for free, not the Wetlook Crawler does this!

 

It is difficult to calculate the bandwidth and server power that is needed. If this gets to hard for a free web site and no producer likes to support us, it can be that the project needs to be closed. This is an open point.

 

Thank you for your comments.

 

Jürgen Koch


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