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Message # 3746.5

Subject: Happy Thank you for blacklisting me

Date: Tue 20/05/03 07:00:07 GMT

Name: Alessia uu

Email: webmaster@wetandmessy.net

Website: www.wetandmessy.net

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Hi all,

I would like to thankyou the forum admin for trying to black listing us from your forum. In any case, this is not avoiding me from reading it, so I think that this action is only demonstrating some anti democratic attitude to avoid discussion.

 

Anyway, I repeat what i said in my previous message, probably not correctly written or read.

 

All our wet and messy material is fully copyrighted and licensed.

 

Regarding the vintage stuff, we got it from a third party and not from wetfan of JJ (i did not even know their site before these days).

 

If there is any copyright problem with these or other images, I invite the owner of copyright to contact us and produce the full documentation (legal and administrative) to prove the ownership of the images. In this case, we'll immediately stop publishing the mentioned images and we'll start a legal action against who gave us the material.

 

Thank you for your attention, even if somebody probably do not want a possible business competitor to speak.

 

Stay Wet

 

Alessia

 

In reply to Message (3746) Angry Warning about "wetandmessy.net"

By Graham (UK) - graham@styxwetworld.com gb Mon 19/05/03 18:37:07 GMT

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Some of this information was posted a few days ago but was deep into a thread, so you may have missed it. If you are considering signing up with wetandmessy.net at $19.99, you may wish to read this ...

 

I noticed their tour contained images belonging to other prople and I challenged them about it. Initially they seemed co-operative and even gave me and MK a password to check out their members area.

 

When we discovered that ALL the photos (except one photoset that starts wet and ends slightly messy) belonged to other people and were mostly already freely available on the Net anyway, we suggested they closed down until they had their own material to sell. At this point, they became less co-operative and stopped communicating.

 

The site "appears" to be run by 2 naive girls. Both MK and I doubt this is true as the site design is quite sophisticated and they appear to be well-versed in all aspects of referral and profit-sharing schemes.

 

When we were able to gain access, we found that the WETLOOK area comprised mostly stolen photos from Scott Hartmann, Wet Kahuna, Wetlook Unlimited, Oasis, Isabelle, Ron Brown, Wet Merlot, Aquantics, IWam, Tess, Lisa Bubbles, Ambers Wet, GP Videoproductions, Splosh. The FOOD area is around 60% Splosh content and also material from Wamtec and Phoebe Pie. The MUD area is photos from Splosh and Wamtec. The VINTAGE area is 100% stolen from vintagewet (Wetfan and JJ).

 

At the time we could see the area, only one shoot was unique and theirs. Whilst this could now have changed (we no longer have access and they do not reply to emails), you may wish to take these notes as a warning to perhaps not waste your money. I am taking their lack of response to my emails as an admittance of guilt. I wrote to UMD to get them dropped from listings and cut off their source of advertising, but nothing has happened yet.

 

Perhaps other site owners would care to lobby UMD about this site now? I will persue it no longer as they do not appear to have any of my images any more and I don't have the time. If someone has signed up and would like to report on the latest member content, I'm sure we'd all like to see what these people are up to, and perhaps someone will post an update here?

 

Graham


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