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Message # 29722.2.1.1.4.1.1

Subject: Re: Global warming is junk "science"!

Date: Thu 14/06/07 05:03:53 GMT

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No wonder, most American cars are complete crap.

And about the rest of your postings: my friend, I think yu may have been iunder the hot desert sun a little too long...

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Re: Global warming is junk "science"!

By Desert Hawk - Thu 14/06/07 01:01:41 GMT

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If "cleaner cars" means more 4 cylinder JUNK, I say no way! I used to own a junk Plymouth Sundance. Search the archives if you want to read that story again. Paradoxically, reducing smog often increases CO2 emissions. The catalytic converter greatly reduces emissions of carbon monoxide and unburned hydrocarbons, but it increases CO2 emissions.

Now they are concerned that cow herds are polluting the air with methane from farting! If radical enviornmentalists get their way, cows will have catalytic converters shoved up their butts. Every 2 years cows will have to get a smog check, with 40% of them randomly assigned to "test only centers"!

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Re: Global warming is junk "science"!

By Jeansschwimmer - Wed 13/06/07 11:39:10 GMT

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Well, right so, of course, burning coal and oil PLUS the ordinary decomposing of plants results in the same amount of corbondioxide being set free than the decomposing alone. How good were you at Maths?

It is a strange thing about pollution concerns. Some years ago the amount of sulphurdioxide set free from coal burning power stations was considered dangerous. Filters got invented that turned the gas into gypsum as building material.That meant pruducing gypsum to such a degree that the exploitation of gypsum mines came to a standstill. Why not trying to do the same thing with carbondioxide turning it into limestome or cement?

As far as I know there are people who forced their automobile industry to produce cleaner cars and then invented the SUV so that they could safely sail around their own regulations, as it was considered a too great burden for the poor people who have to use off-roaders to run them on cleaner, more efficient engines.

And trees can only produce oxygene if they are rooted in the ground and allowed to grow. By some very odd character of theirs they stop doing so the moment you chop them off and take them to the paper mills. How much of North America's forests are still there compared to the early 20th century and how much will be left in another hundred years? How many trees get planted for each one felled?

Well, all this is off-topic for us here, and I do not want to get into detail further.

But I think it was an American who said, if the climate changes and gets hotter they wuould simply turn the air-conditioning units on.

Yours E.

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Re: Global warming is junk "science"!

By Desert Hawk - Wed 13/06/07 03:17:05 GMT

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Right on dude! Driving cars and operating factories can't possibly permanently change the Earth's climate. I too remember the "a new ice age is coming" hysteria in the 70's. There was even an episode of "In Search Of" about it, that was rerun a few years ago on some cable channel. Then in the 80's the global warming stuff came out (called the "greenhouse effect" back then). It is just an excuse for more taxes and more regulations. Nature pollutes itself more than man does. Every volcanic eruption releases millions of tons of CO2, CO, and lots of other pollutants. Every animal in the forest breathes out CO2. Trees use up CO2, but when they die and decompose, all that CO2 goes right back into the air. That's exactly how things are supposed to work. What a wonderful system God designed: our waste product CO2 is what plants breathe, their waste product O2 is what we breathe.

President Bush's house in Texas is designed to be very energy efficient. Al Gore's house in Tenessee wastes lots of energy. Ahh, but he buys "carbon offsets". In other words, let the rich pollute to their heart's content but screw the middle class and the poor with draconian environmental laws.

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Re: Global warming is NOT a serious problem

By fashion_Cam - Wed 13/06/07 02:04:23 GMT

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1. If these people are so concerned about the planet, you'd think that they at least know which direction it rotates (watch the end of the video).

2. I'll buy into the global warming hype (at least in terms of how much of it is man-made) as soon as Al Gore et al can explain the temperature fluctuations that came about long before the spread of industrialization. For instance: the ice ages, the mideval warming period (active vinyards in Great Brittain and greenery in Greenland), the Little Ice Age, and the fact that some of the retreating glaciers in the Alps were not there when the Roman armies marched across. Besides, I'm old enough to remember all the "we're going into another ice age" crap barely 30 years ago. Same hype, just in a different direction.

I'm all for cleaner air and less pollution, but a lot of the global warming stuff is actually just anti-capitalism or a way to make money off the hype (like the "carbon offset" business. What a scam).

Corsair

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Global warming is a serious problem

By sjakie - Tue 12/06/07 20:05:25 GMT

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