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Subject: Re: Re: don't need model release in UK

Date: Wed 26/03/03 02:24:16 GMT

Name: Kev

Email: kev.styx@ntlworld.com

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No injunction would be maintained if someone had knowingly posed for the pictures, irrespective of how famous they were.

Injunctions will only be maintained if you have possibly stalked the person or the images defame them in some way.

In fact the biggest problem is not the pictures, but how you caption them. If you say, "this is Miss X, a prostitute" then you're in deep shit- if you just say "this is Miss X" then the likelihood of any problems are so remote that they're not worth bothering with.

Otherwise loads of people would be taking out injunctions against the press to prevent them publishing images of themselves. Most legal problems are to do with the words that go with a picture not the actual pictures themselves.

I worked as a press agency photographer for several years- the number of times I obtained a release? Zero! Number of problems? Zero!

Basically you can photograph anybody and publish it- there's absolutely nothing they can do about it unless you defame them.

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Re: don't need model release in UK

By leonmoomin - leonmoomin@madasafish.com Wed 26/03/03 01:59:15 GMT

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Yes, technically, the law here is:

The owner of the Camera or Camcorder owns the Photographs or movie rights.

The only legal drawback to not having a model release would be.

The person in the pictures might decide that they don't want them published and could take an injunction preventing you from doing so, to late if you already have and would only usually happen if the model becomes more famous or something. The only way you would be in trouble would be if you tried to publish the pictures after the injunction has been issued. If a photographer does have a model release, there would be no case for an injunction!

Most local press photographers may ask people to sign model releases for ethical reasons!

leonmoomin

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don't need model release in UK

By Kev - kev.styx@ntlworld.com Tue 25/03/03 23:32:40 GMT

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Photographers in the UK don't need the models' permission to publish pictures.

As long as pictures do not miss-represent a person, then a photographer is perfectly free to publish anything he wants. You only need a model release for such things as product endorsements and stuff like that.

The law is different in the US, but this guy is in the UK.

Obviously, if it's your girlfriend, there might be other problems if she doesn't like what you have done, but nothing legally : )

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Re: Proposition...should I or shouldn't I?

By AnthonyX - anthonyx@jowc.net Tue 25/03/03 23:25:11 GMT

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Go for it...

***BUT***

Don't post or otherwise distribute any of the pictures unless you get both of them to sign releases which clearly indicate that they have given you permission to use the pics for whatever purpose you have in mind (free posting, sale, whatever). Such an agreement will fend off any potential lawsuit (assuming you don't exceed any limitations in the agreement they sign). If they don't want to sign, or you don't feel comfortable asking, keep the pics to yourself!

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Proposition...should I or shouldn't I?

By Wet_Gorilla - hardy_har_hard@hotmail.com Tue 25/03/03 22:37:47 GMT

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Ok, let me set the scene...met the woman of my dreams last christmas and told her upfront about my preference for wetlook. To my surprise she not only thought it was cool, but a couple of weeks later told me she gets her sexual kicks out of getting messy fully-clothed. However, she is a bit paranoid about her weight and appearance and won't let me take pictures...until...last week. She really wants me to take photos of her and her best friend, who is really, really hot getting wet and messy in my bathroom. However, only problem is, I can imagine her getting even more paranoid during this shoot as she will think i'm looking at her friend more than her...

So...

what do you lot think...should I go for it?

should i post the pictures?

Am i a big wuss?

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