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Message # 25809.1.1

Subject: Re: When are clips stolen?

Date: Tue 14/11/06 22:04:35 GMT

Name: Rod and Elizabeth

Email: rod@wetkernwife.com

Website: www.wetkernwife.com

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Well, technically, any broadcast, re-broadcast, or "public exhibition" of copyrighted material is illegal. When the staff of a restaurant sings the traditional Happy Birthday song to you, most likely it's illegal unless they paid rights to BMI/ASCAP. That is a copyrighted song. If you go into your dentist's office and they're playing CD's on their internal stereo, that's illegal, techincally. That's a public exhibition. For you to download any copyrighted material and put it up on another website or to use copyrighted music is a production, that's illegal unless you pay synchronization rights.

Basically any copyrighted material of any length, unless it's part of a song less than seven measures, is illegal for you to repost in any form, or matter. That doesn't mean that it isn't done. There are wetlook producers that use copyrighted music in their videos but they'd be the first to scream if someone copied one of their videos and sold it.

The law is very clear, technically, however it's regularly bent quite a bit.

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Re: When are clips stolen?

By Desert Hawk - Tue 14/11/06 17:17:12 GMT

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Using "brief excerpts" from tv shows (or any copyrighted material) is generally considered "fair use". Using the entire program or a significant portion of it is generally considered piracy.

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When are clips stolen?

By Frank (the noname) - Tue 14/11/06 05:23:39 GMT

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Hi folks,

I have one serious question referring to some discussions around wambank and similar topics about "stolen" material, especially when it's found "publical" released like on tv. So - when actually is stuff stolen, when not? Some examples:

a) I record some TV-stuff like the wet-jeans scene from "Invasion" and share it via my website, rapidshare, wambank, etc. Off course, I'm not Hollywood. I don't owe the Copyright. Q: Stolen or not?

b) I find this stuff on some websites, rapidshare, wambank or somewhere else and download it. Again, I'm not the Copyright-holder. Q: Am I a thief?

c) I try to post some kind of stuff I found on b) elsewhere - whom did I steal something? A? B? Both? None? Perhaps it's created under CC-licences, perhaps not - how do I know?

Actually confused,

Frank

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