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Subject: Note Re: No surprise

Date: Mon 14/08/06 13:12:52 GMT

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Unfortunatly, there's not a helluva lot we can do about it, other than blocking ip's, reporting them to the authorities and ISP's when we do catch them. It's nearly impossible to stop P2P sharing, also. I'd bet that if u put all the p2p programs that's out there and do a search on them all, u'd find everything in wetlook that has ever been produced. U-tube is just as bad. But Euromaxx seems to be the most wanted material to misused.
In reply to Message (24219.2.1) Hello Re: No surprise

By Scott - scottbrochert@sbcglobal.net us Mon 14/08/06 12:08:17 GMT

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After reading about this I am more than a little frustrated.  Don't these lowlife punks have anything better to do than try to make money off other people?  I totally understand Graham's reason for closing the Styx sites.  I have been a member of Styx Wet Denim whenever I was able to be, and now that it's going away because of these punks makes me mad.  Ruins the fun for everyone else.  

 

I wish all the wet producers out there the best of luck protecting yourselves from these punks.  Without you guys, the image of a beautiful girl in wet clothes would not be possible.

 

Scott B.

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By Graham (Styx) - gb Mon 14/08/06 11:22:48 GMT

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This is no surprise to me. Over the four years of StyxWetWorld, we have detected numerous attempts from Russian IP addresses to attack the site. Most of the time, they use usernames and passwords that have been taken from computers in the Europe and the US that are affected by spyware. Of course the same people will have bank and credit card details from their computers too. Anyone foolish enough to run a Windows computer without spyware protection deserves whatever they get as a result.

 

We went through a painful exercise over a year ago. We renamed and hid the site's members area and only gave it out to new signups. This immediately cut the fraud traffic and also stopped the robot attacks that happened for up to 10 hours a day (every day) from Russian IP addresses.

 

We still see attempted signups (and password sharing) from people, even when membership prices have been cut and memberships are more affordable. Every week, we track signups (almost always using yahoo.com addresses) from people using stolen credit cards and fake details (and often female names). We cancel every one of them and report them to the fraud department at CCBILL. We also run a dedicated area (on another forum) for producers to help each other by sharing this fraudulant signup information.

 

I'll admit that this constant battle against fraud and thieves is another reason why we've decided to close the Styx sites. We don't want to spend all this time having to watch our backs and trying to beat these people. We want to spend it producing material and having fun, but sadly this isn't possible any more.

In reply to Message (24219) Hello Alert to ALL producers - be aware of this illegal site

By MK - wamtec@compuserve.com us Mon 14/08/06 10:14:42 GMT

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This message affects just about every producer there is...I have a source in Eastern Europe who monitors Russian language sites and who has reported to me that there is an entity in Russia that is BOLDLY making a business from copying practically all the DVDs and online videos we all have on our sites. They are even brazen enough to call their website "The Wet Raider" (pirate) too....and what they do is duplicate DVDs from our various sites to make DVD copies, and then they appear to have access to numerous of our online membership sites, and they are downloading our online clips and then burning those off to CD or DVD data disks for wide distribution in Eastern Europe etc.

 

The clever thing thing is....they appear to have been successfully "cloaking" their activities and staying "invisible" to our normal detetcions, because a) their website is entirely in Russian and not in English, and b) they have managed to created a website address that is ONLY accessible if you happen to live inside Russia and it's former states like the Ukraine, but that same website appears to be inaccessible to the rest of us....because whenever I try to access their website address...all I am getting is a 404 bad url error message....yet my contact inside Russia tells me that the site is fully up and running and accessible from where he is.

 

Anyway....here is the rather disturbing information....see below. We are pretty much all being affected by this entity and their illegal operations. I do not know what we can do...because copyright laws cannot be enforced inside Russia...and even if we can identify the name of the invididual who is behind this site...ip address banning from our servers and the 2 major forums will not prevent him from changing his name handle and ip address and continuing what he is doing.  All I can suggest that producers do...is

 

a) Be aware....of "who" your Russian customers are....because one of them who seems to have multiple memberships to all your online sites and or orders DVDs...is engaging in mass duplication of all your works onto CDs and DVDs.  If you note any suspicious traffic patterns from Russia....monitor them.

 

b) Encourage all your Russian based customers to please report to you on any entities they find inside their country that is illegally offering your products for sale.

 

I do not have the technical tools to trace this site....because I cannot seem to access it from here....so I will leave that to the experts like Graham of Styx (whose media is also being compromised) to do some research and for any suggestions on what we can do to shut down this site. The Narod ISP service is a free webhosting service...and so reporting things to them will do no good....they will simple shut down that site and re-open with another ISP instead.

 

I do not know what we can do to thwart this site.....but I feel all of you producers need to be aware of this....cos this website in Russia is duplicating media from every single membership site and dvd store in our genre.

 

So therefore I am merely reporting to you the info that was passed to me.....here it is.

 

If any wam fans are reading this boring message....please show your support to the ORIGINAL producers who provide you with their great media. Please do not support illegal entities like this....please report them to us.

 

regards

MK

 

from my contact in Eastern Europe...

 

 

I have found one rather inevitable thing in Russian wam internet - probably a piracy

 

There is a site www.wetraider.narod.ru   

 

On this site a guy sales a lot of dvd videos and cd in mpeg4 format. He gets orders from many people and buys content from pay sites.

After this he sells it at cheeper price

 

His price is 1000 rubles per dvd - about 32 $

And 200 rubles per cd - about 6 dollars

 

His offer is the following - sites including the best your sites (wamgold for example)

 

So in such a way we can loose Russian market

Another thing. If somehow his activity is stopped (banned access to your and another sites or something like this) - people from Russia may be disappointed.  So if something will be done not to permit him buying and speculating licensed products of well known producers, people should not know that I was a person who told you about his activity, otherwise we can loose Russian speaking audience of our sites completely.

 

The mail of this person is wetraider@mail.ru

 

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