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Message # 24120.1.1.1.3

Subject: Hello Re: Pools and clothes

Date: Wed 09/08/06 06:44:19 GMT

Name: AnthonyX ca

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I've seen this topic discussed before. From what I can recall of the discussions, plus my own understanding:

 

Clothing can be both a "pro" and a "con" when it comes to pool safety. Some clothing can be difficult to swim in which can increase the likelihood of a swimmer getting into distress and requiring assistance or rescue. Also, loose clothing can pose a risk because of the potential for it to entangle, get caught in drains etc. and trap the wearer underwater. On the other hand, clothing can be an aid to rescue because it gives the rescuer more to grab on to.

 

Almost all clothing, no matter how clean, can be problematic when it comes to maintaining correct pool chemistry. Particles released from clothing (trapped dust, broken fibers, etc.) to accumulate in the filters is only one issue. Everything that comes into contact with the pool water has the potential to react with the chlorine and "consume" it. Even small, simple articles of clothing actually have very large surface areas when you consider all the individual fibers. All that surface area increases the opportunity for chemical reactions which effectively use up the chlorine. So, the more clothing which ends up in your pool, the more often you have to add chlorine and make adjustments to the pH. The same goes if the pool gets used a lot, or if there's a lot of splashing about (if you have a fountain or waterfall feature).

 

Certainly, clothing can be a vector for biological contamination. Since one may not always know the relative cleanliness of a person or their clothing, the only reasonable assumption to make is what most public pool operators do. "Bathing suits only, shower before entering pool" to minimize both the likelihood of introducing contamination and the rate at which expensive pool chemicals are wasted.

 

When it's your own pool, your chemicals and your friends, you can certainly go crazy with the fully clothed swim parties. I'm pretty sure I would too. But I certainly don't hold it against public pool operators to set the policies they do. Disappointing and frustrating though it may be, it is done with sound reason.

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By Bobby(messylaura) - wambobbylaura@msn.com gb Tue 08/08/06 19:52:45 GMT

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just one thing to say really, swimming pools are for people who want to go swimming, not for people who have wetlook fetishes, i'd love it too if every one went swimming in street clothes.

there is also a H&S issue too, most pools are tiled, high heels and alot of street shoes are deadly on wet tiles, i know :), pool managers would never allow unsutable clothing in an enviroment that could be leathal, ie slipping and drowning.

 

on the plus side, us wetlook lovers have pool parties, and nearly everyone is soaking wet in thier clubbing / street clothes, you just got to find them,

managed to catch one in london last weekend which was pretty good, and yes i and many others were in street clothes, alot were in "beach party" wear hence the event title

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By Mike - swimlvr591@aol.com uu Tue 08/08/06 17:31:55 GMT

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Ok, now its my turn.......Hygene does play a little role,but chlorine or bromine will take care of that. As for the concern of lint, dyes, and so on, one word comes to mind. Backwash!  Most commercial filters are sand filters, and have "latterals" on the bottom. Back washing should force lint and other debri back out through the sand and out of the system. If done on a regular basis there shouldnt be any clogs. When skimmer baskets collect lint, and what I refer to the "secondary" lint traps...just remove the basket and flush out with water or compressed air. I know all this cos back when my uncle was living he use to install pools, both residental and commerical.
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By pool manager - us Tue 08/08/06 16:35:26 GMT

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as a point of rhetoric, you don't want to take extreme situations bent in your favor and summarily come to the conclusion that pool managers don't have it all together.

 

furthermore, it's not a point of personal hygeine that the pool managers are concerned about, and certainly you don't want to draw some sort of meaningless correlation between bodily hygeine and clothing preference.  after all, the girl that was wearing the bikini was wearing clothes a matter of minutes ago; you're choosing your battle on the wrong front. pool managers are concerned with excess detergents, dyes, lint, dirt/mud and other bits that are trapped in normal day-to-day wear getting into their pool.  and they have every right to be concerned about this as it's a large part of their business to create a safe environment.  if you don't like their definition of "safe", complain to those who make the regulations which specify the pH range a pool's water can be at, which, i'm betting is some municipal or state-level regulatory board.

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By G.O.P. - us Tue 08/08/06 15:21:16 GMT

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A few times before, we have discussed how most people object to people getting into pools in "street clothes" because they believe that it is unsanitary.  I was brainstorming today, as I often do (wandering mind, brainstorming, what's the difference? HA!), and here is my answer to this.  Any person is as clean or as dirty as their personal hygeine habits.  Same goes for whatever they are wearing.  Let's pretend that you are having a pool party and the following two women are among your guests.  One of them takes a bath only twice a week, and today is her second morning without one.  She works outside in 100+ degree weather and sweats continuously.  When she goes to the bathroom, she isn't conscientious at all about proper wiping;  she leaves pee drops all over her intimate area, and skidmarks in her panties.  When she eats, she is messy and gets food all over her clothes, hands, and arms. She comes to your pool party and changes into a bikini that is never washed because she considers swimming to be washing enough.  Now the other woman.  She takes a thorough bath and washes her hair every morning.  Her clothes are always freshly washed.  She works inside an airconditioned office.  When she goes to the bathroom, she is very careful to wipe away all traces of pee and/or poop.  When she eats, she is very careful to never get and food or drink on her body or clothes.  She comes to your pool party and gets in the pool wearing the clothes she wore to work all day, black polyester slacks and a nice blouse.  WHICH OF THESE TWO WOMEN IS GOING TO CONTRIBUTE FAR MORE GERMS AND DIRT TO YOUR POOL WATER???  Obviously the first one.  Yet many narrow-minded idiots will think the first woman is cleaner because she is wearing a bikini.  A person with good overall personal hygeine is going to be cleaner than one who has bad personal hygeine habits, regardless of what either are wearing.  Why can't stupid pool managers understand this?????


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