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Subject: Smokin Re: Re: Some thoughts

Date: Wed 19/07/06 14:10:14 GMT

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>> Thank you Regenman [You should stop smoking, BTW. Too many cigarettes in your story ]

 

> I've sent in another story, with pictures, where I hardly talk about sigarettes at all! Just once.

> Oh, talking about smoking, excuse me one second while I light another one...

 

Hehe, I didn't mean stop smoking, I meant quit it. Seriously, during a period of about 15 years I had between 8 and 15 cigarettes per day, and then I quit smoking about 5 years ago. I was so lucky that I was able to stop from one day to another without problems. And after some weeks it felt great to be independent.

 

I know, many people have to fight hard, but I didn't need to. In the meantime, twice or three time a year when I meet very good friends I'm even able to smoke 2 or 3 cigarettes just for fun without falling back the next day.

 

> @Martina: (Or any other girl or woman) could you try to describe what you like in pictures of wet males?

 

I'm very sorry, no, I can't. I've tried to explain in 23353.1 that, if any, I like female wetlook photos.

 

Martina

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By regenman - regenman@planet.nl nl Wed 19/07/06 08:09:20 GMT

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>> Thank you Regenman [You should stop smoking, BTW. Too many cigarettes in your story ]

 

I've sent in another story, with pictures, where I hardly talk about sigarettes at all! Just once. Oh, talking about smoking, excuse me one second while I light another one...

 

I think Telcontar and you are in a real interesting discussion. I have some thoughts that differ from yours:

 

You wrote:

>>Not that I know a lot of, but take any soft porn scene, any "sport clip" in the german "DSF" TV night program that starts

>>with a girl getting soaked or muddy. All that wet/mudlook seems to be just a teaser to fuel male fantasy, and fast enough

>>the girl somehow loses her wet clothes, ending up naked. And if one thing is sure then it is the fact that these producers

>>exactly know what their target group likes to see.

 

Those producers surely know - but they not only know how to satisfy their audience. They also know how to satisfy their main customers: Their advertisers. Their main goal is not to satisfy the viewers, but to keep their attention, which they might do by NOT showing what people want to see. Specifically in MTV-clips and commercials I got a strong impression that the producer shows something sexy (often for less then half a  second) that will whet your appetite and leave you hoping for more - which will never come. If the shot would be long enough to "satisfy" any viewer, he would turn off the TV and be lost as audience.

(I am speculating here.)

 

In movies, there has to be a different goal, but what? A wet scene might result in a wetlook-advertisement for the movie, like in "Up close and personal", "Titanic" or "Six days, seven nights". The incredible messy scene in "Tommy" must serve a different purpose. It is so much out of context and I think there was just one reason: The producer LIKED to see that kind of scene and saw his chance.

Is there any producer or advertisement-maker that knows the full story? I'm curious.

 

 Telcontar:  So I figure women like looking at hot men plenty. But, it seems, they're just not interested in wet men. Dang, cause I'd love to believe that I look really sexy wet! =)

Martina: Hmmm, that's really how I feel when I'm wet, too. But I also believe that only thinking one looks sexy somehow makes ones behaviour and thus the appearance sexier. Automatically. Try it. Start smiling.

 

What I personally  like is seeing a girl that clearly enjoys the feeling without wondering how it looks. That's why I like candid pictures (or real-life wetness) better than wet models. In models, I like the ones that enjoy what they are doing, or at least act like they do. I don't like them acting "sexy" or aroused. I like the natural look of innocent joy: Just the joy of cooling down, of feeling the soft touch of wet textile, or the joy of doing something rediculous.

 

@Martina: (Or any other girl or woman) could you try to describe what you like in pictures of wet males? What you like to see and what not? I would like to try and make some pictures of myself that women like to see. So, any advice might come back as a picture you like!

You might start by looking at my pictures of yesterday

http://community.webshots.com/album/552379742sAXyrT

and commenting on them. (Warning: male wetlook)

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Reg (Enman)

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By WetMartina - wetmartina@sonnenkinder.org de Tue 18/07/06 13:26:03 GMT

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Hi all,
it's me that was away from the forum for almost two weeks. How time flies! I was a bit busy all the days and a bit too lazy all the evenings. Thanks for the reminders

I'd like to thank all of you that emailed me their comments about my tiny story. And, even more, I loved very much to find some other small stories here. Thank you Regenman [You should stop smoking, BTW. Too many cigarettes in your story ], Jennifer and Todd, and Victor. Please, all, don't keep your everyday experiences secret. A few lines are enough, and it's great to know that someone with a known name has become wet and happy again.

And, last but not least, it was a great pleasure to see all the vintage jeans photos by Frankie posted by Scott. I wish I would have been there, but I guess I'm some years too young plus I lived in the wrong part of the world those days, plus my parents were a bit to strict.

However, today is today, and I still owe Telcontar some answers to his posting (quotes indented).

    Hm ... I'm just saying I suppose that if we look at how popular female wetlook is -- all the forum visitors, all the producers of wetlook material -- then there are plenty of men who like looking at wet women. It's not a generalisation of all men, but it's a trend in the sense that there are lot of men who like it, and we can get a handle on their likes.

Well, I'm still sure that for the majority of men (present company excepted) not female wetlook is the thing they are after, but simply naked skin. Wetlook might be one medium to stimulate their fantasy. Not that I know a lot of, but take any soft porn scene, any "sport clip" in the german "DSF" TV night program that starts with a girl getting soaked or muddy. All that wet/mudlook seems to be just a teaser to fuel male fantasy, and fast enough the girl somehow loses her wet clothes, ending up naked. And if one thing is sure then it is the fact that these producers exactly know what their target group likes to see.

    We know what this forum is for, we tend believe that most visitors are men, so we can figure out what men all want.

Perhaps we can figure out what men want that visit this forum here. We still can't tell whether there are more or less men after wetlook than, say, ten years ago. The increasing number of forum visitors may also says that it's easier or cheaper to get "into" the web, or that search enginges got better to find what these men were looking for. If you do your poll, please include a question like "Since when are you a wetlook lover". I guess most answers will be "since my teenager years".

    Unlike finding a tech girlfriend, where you can discuss the subject openly and find out her interests and abilities, wetlook from a man's perspective is still too much about wanting to see the woman get wet for him and thus risking that the woman will feel objectified and refuse.

Yes, I see a difference. And I doubt to be an aide in that concern. But then, is the difference so great? Would you ask a girl when you meet her the first time for her thoughts about the latest Linux kernel compilation? I guess no, since you know most of the girls would stay up and go away (and most boys, too). So you would leave that subject for later, maybe when she needs som help with her Windows. Maybe you have the chance to accompany her for a swimming in the sea or pool. If you by that chance tell her that you prefer to swim wearing a shirt and that you like the feeling on the skin etc. (instead of silly excuses about UV radiation) and you do not ask her to do the same then I can't imagine she will cry out and run away. And if she does, then don't worry: she was the wrong one.

    Men tend to be so lewd and disrespectful about it, and it reflects so badly on men that so many of us objectify women as people to letch at and remark about the size and shape of their bodies. I don't know why women don't act the same way about men, but it's nice that they don't, and men need to learn a lesson there I think.

I only can imagine some very historic reasons for this difference: Men had to protect their tribe against wild animals, against other enemies. Men had to fight wars. Women had to educate children. Maybe in some thousand years the difference will disappear. Hopefully.

    So I figure women like looking at hot men plenty. But, it seems, they're just not interested in wet men. Dang, cause I'd love to believe that I look really sexy wet! =)

Hmmm, that's really how I feel when I'm wet, too. But I also believe that only thinking one looks sexy somehow makes ones behaviour and thus the appearance sexier. Automatically. Try it. Start smiling.

    If I ever did manage to write something that worked

May I suggest to start with a simply DB table, one column per question, on record per participant? Write a simple PHP form with input elements (checkboxes, radiobuttons, combo boxes, and edit fields) to output and to verify the form and to put the record into the table. If filled, export the table and do the whole interpretation stuff using Calc or Excel or whatever.

    ScheiBe forum ist nicht spacen geinserten inbetweenen meine paragraphs...

Gesundheit!

Martina


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