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Message # 21499.3

Subject: Re: Constructive criticism of wl producers

Date: Wed 29/03/06 18:28:01 GMT

Name: AnthonyX

Email: anthonyx@jowc.net

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I see no issue with constructive criticism, and I would advocate it. However, I think there may be differing ideas of what constitutes constructive criticism.

In my view, constructive criticism is feedback which supports the recipient(s) in their attempts to improve what they do. It can be taken as helpful suggestions or at least information from which new ideas can be derived.

This looks to me more like a thinly veiled complaint. Given the attached porn URL, I can't help thinking there is an ulterior motive - perhaps marketing-driven?

Porn is so ubiquitous on the internet, none of us needs to be steered at a specific example in this way, so there must be some other reason for it.

I don't think you can apply the "high-volume" mainstream porn business model to a niche like wetlook. Of course Shadow admits this, completely invalidating his own example.

Bottom line: this whole thread is about nothing more than a transparent attempt to raise the profile of a mainstream porn site which probably doesn't need it.

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Constructive criticism of wl producers

By Shadow - Wed 29/03/06 15:53:38 GMT

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With all respect! I think many wet look producers seems to be quite greedy. They offer you a membership, and when you log in, you find that the page rarely updates, the archives are very often small and when they update it is like 10 more pictures from one of the excising sets.

I have been a member of many wet look pages during the last 6 years. I think I have more or less been the member of every wetlook pages that there are out ther.

Some of the producers though are very skilled, while other pure amatours more or less photographing their aunt and wife. Both in skills and attitude ( read their posts on this forum).

My preference and liking has lately attracted me to Erik Elsas work, Styx Denmin and WS-net. For everyone that are into casual clothing and jeanswear you should take a closer look at these producers.

However. My personal feeling is that besides Erik Elsas pages. Styx and WS are barely worth the membership cost. Not because of the quality of their work, as I said its absolutely superb! But.. The archives are very small and the update frequency and the actual content of an update are also very limited. Very often it is like part 2 of a set and then part 3 of another set that has been out for months. And the total amount of sets is very limited. I see pictures in the free galleries. And when I register, Those sets have been deleted or removed 2 months ago.

I was also very disappointed as a member of WS net. To log in and the only discover that I had to pay an additional cost for every video! That is one great membership! I also remember being a member of that page once. And a year after the membership was canceled I became a member again and there was barely updates.

Now. The wet look producers should watch and learn highly professional sites and successful producers like this: (Porn site link removed - Nigel) 68.000 images online! That is worth the payment!

Seriously I don’t expect the wetlook producers to enter this league. But come on. 12 picturesets and 3 months to complete a few new ones that’s not good enough when you charge hard earned cash!

The producers seems very upset every time someone posts a picture or two illegal on other pages.

I happen to wonder how many producers of wetlook that actually pays the PRS and license fee for the music they put onto their videos ? :P

This was meant as constructive criticism and please don’t start a flame war or anything.

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