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Subject: Hello Re: Xerox -> Apple Mac -> Windows

Date: Wed 04/01/06 10:53:51 GMT

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Thanks for the correction.

 

There was a very interesting tv movie released 3-4 years ago....about all this....how Bill Gates and his people went at it with Steve Jobs and his people....and things were pretty much cutthroat between the 2 companies....meanwhile the "suits" at Xerox and IBM were totally clueless and their companies went into decline...as all these new kids on the block entered the scene.

 

One should also not forget that Larry Ellison of Oracle...and the folks at Cisco were after Bill Gates blood too.

 

Whether you like these guys or not....all of them are visionaries in their own right...as well as other folks like Michael Dell and others like Jeff Bezos who founded amazon.com -- now there is a person with a vision. He created Amazon.com when nobody would finance his concept...so he borrowed $50,000 from his parents in order to start his online retail business...and it loses money for the first 3 years (while capturing a huge market share) and investors did not want to touch it...and then the chickens come home to roost and the guy is now worth about 10 billion....not a bad rate of return....for an investment of 50 grand.

 

MK

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By FountainFrolic - us Wed 04/01/06 00:14:39 GMT

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>>>It's the same with Bill Gates and his "Windows" software. It was XEROX who actually invented the concept of Windows, and they had it under development, but could not envision a usage for it. So...both Xerox and IBM passed on it, and they allowed Bill Gates the exclusive rights to develop it....and that was the biggest mistake Xerox and IBM ever made in their history....passing up on that software and allowing Bill Gates to have it.  They did not have a vision for that software .....but Bill Gates saw the potential in it.<<<

 

Close, but with one major error there, MK.  Xerox didn't give "exclusive rights" to Bill Gates or anyone else.  You're right about it being the biggest mistake Xerox ever made - compounded because they never licensed it to anyone.  Apple hired a number of staff from Xerox PARC after the success of the Apple II gave them the cash to do so, and that team they hired created first the Lisa, then the Mac - which borrowed heavily from the Xerox GUI.  Gates then looked at the Mac, and developed Windows, borrowing heavily from the Mac - heavily enough that after the release of Windows 2.0, Apple filed the famous lawsuit against Microsoft over stealing the "look and feel" of the Mac desktop for Windows.  Of course, Apple eventually lost every single count of that lawsuit, and the rest is history, as they say.  Suing Microsoft for copying something that they themselves copied just as much from Xerox was one of the ballsiest things Apple ever did, and eventually one of the dumbest too, after they lost on all counts.

In reply to Message (20115.2) Hello Re: Craig's List?

By MK - wamtec@compuserve.com us Tue 03/01/06 14:49:56 GMT

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FYI.....Craig's list dates back to the very birth of the internet as we know it.

 

FYI...it was Craig who basically invented the concept of "the search engine"...cos he was the first person n 1995 to start compiling lists of things that people would want to search for.

 

Unfortunately....Craig never really developed his concept...and then along came 2 young graduates in their early 20's (David Filo and Jerry Yang) who took Craig's idea of lists of information....and developed their own search engine called YAHOO. David and Jerry then became billionaires before they were 25 years old....and then the creators of GOOGLE came along and they became billionaires too.

 

This guy Craig Newmark must be kicking himself in the head these days....cos he only makes chump change from his business....while other people stole his ideas and created YAHOO and GOOGLE and became billionaires.

 

But thats life.....it is not those who come up with an idea that become rich....it is those people who see the potential in an idea and are able to develop and market it.

 

It's the same with Bill Gates and his "Windows" software. It was XEROX who actually invented the concept of Windows, and they had it under development, but could not envision a usage for it. So...both Xerox and IBM passed on it, and they allowed Bill Gates the exclusive rights to develop it....and that was the biggest mistake Xerox and IBM ever made in their history....passing up on that software and allowing Bill Gates to have it.  They did not have a vision for that software .....but Bill Gates saw the potential in it.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig%27s_list

 

MK

 

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Has anyone here used Craig's List to meet a wet partner?

Any luck?  Any thoughts?

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