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Subject: Hello Re: Codec wars

Date: Mon 20/01/03 02:49:53 GMT

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I agree with Anthony. There are way to many codices- particularly at the low resolution end (mpeg4)

 

All my origination is done on an Apple Mac, so originally I placed QuickTime Movies on the Styx freesite. It appears that around 10% of people couldn't view them.

 

I now use "tmpeg" to transcode my .movs into mpeg1's. These are cross platform compatible and can be viewed with just about every system.

 

Anyone wishing to download this (windows compatible) software go to

http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_main.html  

 

it's free and is a remarkable piece of software- you can even change standards with it, NTSC to PAL and vice versa. It will transcode just about any AVI or DV type of file into mpeg- although sometimes you have to frame serve. You can use the software to alter all aspects of the movies, including resolution and bitrate, so you can produce small mpeg1's which are still cross platform compatible

 

I intend to convert the few existing QT Movies to mpeg1's in the near future.

 

On the members' site. video is available as "white book" standard mpeg1- which means it is full resolution, full bitrate and can be viewed full screen or even written to a Video CD (using something like Nero) and watched on TV via a domestic DVD player (giving a far superior picture than on a monitor).

In addition WMV files are also provided (about 20% of the mpeg1 file size)- this provides maximum compatibility as over 90% of computers can use Media Player to view- plus the download time is kept short for those with dial up accounts.

 

There is an advice page on computer video on my freesite

http://www.styx-photography.com/wetpages/wetpages/vidinfo/vidinfo.html

which people may find useful

 

Kev

In reply to Message (1883) Question Codec wars

By AnthonyX - anthonyx@jowc.net ca Sun 19/01/03 13:51:00 GMT

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I don't mean this to be a rant or a complaint... more of an observation and an attempt to understand what's going on...

 

I've noticed quite a proliferation of codecs over the past couple of years, and it seems that as new contributors arrive on the scene to share their material, as often as not, they render it using a codec nobody's heard of before. I look forward to seeing all the material being offered up, but I'm not that comfortable with downloading a seemingly endless array of new codecs to do it.

 

By my understanding of information theory, there is only so much one can achieve re: image compression without sacrificing quality. I believe that the array of popularly available codecs for the past year represent more-or-less the limit of what can be done; any further improvements would only be incremental - not of any real practical value. Also, they perform well enough on most platforms that again, any further improvements are unlikely to yield any appreciable benefit.

 

So... with no real benefits coming from this "latest and greatest" stream of codecs, can't we standardize on one or two or three of the myriad of codecs most of us already have on our computers, instead of adding yet another one to the mix?

 

It seems to me almost like an arms race... just when consumers have settled in to the latest emerging "standard", providers moving forward to something new, which consumers can't use (until they find a way to move forward). I know this isn't the intent, but I think it does tend to be the effect.

 

Why am I making a big deal out of it? What's so difficult about going to www.supernewcodec.com to download it? Well, two things: (1) I need this computer to earn a living; I can't risk installing software which might make my computer unstable, and (2) It seems to me that codecs are a great opportunity to introduce a virus into a computer; I'm not saying it's been done, but I think it may only be a matter of time.

 

Any thoughts on this? I'd especially welcome perspectives from people who are producing/providing video clips.


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