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Subject: Hello Re: Re: Re: All of this blather about underaged models

Date: Tue 06/09/05 22:34:16 GMT

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Thing is, we're not talking about consent for sexual intercourse. We're talking about pictures of FULLY CLOTHED wet girls!  Looking at someone, regardless of supposed "intent" is not illegal. As far as "intent", my intent is not that I would like to have sex with them. Casual sex is against my religious beliefs and personal moral code. If any of the women/girls whose pictures have appeared on this forum were to invite me to have sex with her, the answer would be NO.  When I look at pictures on this forum, I just enjoy the wet clothes. I am not imagining having sex with her.  If some of you are wanting to have sex with teenage girls who appear here, then you have a serious problem, but it is your problem, not mine.  The enjoyment of seeing a teenager in wet clothes is not wrong. Desiring sex with her is.
In reply to Message (18062.4.2) Note Re: Re: All of this blather about underaged models

By Blue Ranger - ex Tue 06/09/05 02:41:15 GMT

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You say 'legally' unable to give consent, and of course we must abide by the law. But as I have previously mentioned, defining a natural occurence as an overnight event for everyone is far from accurate. A 15 year old can be more than aware of what she is consenting to, where as a 16 year old (age of sexual consent in UK) may still be uncertain. Take a 15 year old the day before her 16th birthday and she is 'incapable' of making her own decisions sexually but come day break in just a few hours and she is suddenly a more mature grown up individual? If a fully developed 15 year old is dressing or acting provocatively with sexual implications then she is more than aware of her actions and the consequences. And as Sopping's first post said, there's certainly underage models on some sites, but if they are going to dress and behave in a grown up manner then why should we not treat them as such.

 

On the point of statutory rape (edging off topic I know), although the law in the UK is pretty strict on this, if a 15 year old has managed her way into a bar or club and therefore PRETENDING to be an adult, a man who takes her home for any action may well avoid charges as long as the court is convinced he did not know her age. The girl would be at fault for putting herself into the situatuion. Girls are notorious for looking years different to their actual age.

In reply to Message (18062.4) Peace Man Re: All of this blather about underaged models

By Anonymous - ca Mon 05/09/05 19:00:32 GMT

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Here's why I disagree with Sopping.

 

While all underage girls are "off limits," the reasons are different.

Anyone aroused by a pre-pubescent girl is by definition a paedophile.

This is not the case for arousal by, say, a physically mature fifteen-year-old.

But the fifteen-year-old is still off limits.

Why?

Because as a minor she lacks the mental maturity to consent. This is why sex with a minor is called statutory rape: "rape" because legally, she can't consent.

If an adult does something in public, she or he is presumed to consent to others seeing her. If she posts a picture on the internet, it's in the public domain. She may not have done so intending people to be aroused by it, but she is old enough that she ought to know that she's taking that chance.

Arousal by a physically mature 15 year old is not paedophelia; it is taking advantage of a person who is incapable of consent.

We all know what this forum is for, and it's not for casual observation of interesting sights.

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By Sopping - katakai1@verizon.net us Mon 05/09/05 04:29:24 GMT

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I don't get it.

 

I am not talking about national laws here, just common sense. It is OK to take and publish a picture of an infant, a young child, a lovely young woman---of ANY age...As long as she is, playing in the park, petting a small dog, sucking on an ice-cream bar, or sitting on a fence wearing a bikini etc etc. - whatever. No problem, no porn, no nothing.No cries of alarm!

 

Why can said young lady be innocently wading in a lake? Is it OK for her to be standing by the lake then? Or possibly just getting her feet wet? At what point does she wade to sufficient depth that the button of the "anti-porn police" is pushed?

 

There is not the slightest element of porn in these pictures.You know it, I know it, we all know it.

 

But, on this site, we have postings by slobbering voyeurs of "Busty,Sexy teen-models" and similar porn-come-ons all the time. Big time! If I were to waste my time on these sites, I am sure I could identify some underage bimbos. But why bother.

 

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