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Subject: Hello Re: Re: Why are there so few wetlookers? What do you think?

Date: Thu 11/08/05 22:04:47 GMT

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  I have to agree with a lot of what J said. Most guys will find some version of wetlook to be exciting (as most girls will) but it's not the end... like it is with a fetishist. Raise your hands if you know a non-wetlook guy who loves a wet t-shirt contest. But for them it's foreplay -- for a fetishist it's really all there is. Of course there are differing degrees of this, but that's the key difference.

   Victor, I have to argue the word "decide" though, in reference to people deciding to be gay (or wetlook fetishists, or whatever.) Maybe you didn't mean it that way, but really -- Who the hell would 'choose' to be disciminated against, beat up for no other reason, possibly murdered, alienated from family and society... Forgive me, but it's not a choice. I didn't choose to be a wammer. I have no choice. But I am a full-blown fetishist, unlike 95% of the world. And like 95% of the people here, I can't imagine life without some version of wetlook, even if just in my mind. (Please don't take that as an attack... read it with the voice of a friendly guy with a beer in his hand  :)   And really, I am as curious as to why we are as we are as the next person.

   Sadly, every study I've ever read about fetishes has the author hung up on boots. They all talk about fetishists with their collections of boots, and for some reason I've heard some classify it as "sexually devient" and therefore in the ranks of child molestors. I've never read or seen or heard of a realistic study of fetishes, let alone wetlook. I mean really: are people born wanting to be toilet slaves, or do they grow into it? How does that come up in a discussion? Are there more toilet slaves than wetlook fetishists? Is there a toilet slave forum where someone is asking why aren't there more people into eating poop? And aren't you happy you only have to explain to your girlfriend that all she needs to do is shower in her clothes once a month and you will worship her....

 

   Why are there so few wetlookers? You're right that many folks don't know it, or don't have the dialog and words to understand it. I guess the question for me is why don't I get turned on at all by regular naked chicks making dumb faces for the camera?

In reply to Message (17591.2) Idea Re: Why are there so few wetlookers? What do you think?

By JustKeepSwimming - Jumalte127@yahoo.com us Thu 11/08/05 16:18:41 GMT

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I'll try my best here.

 

There is a large, and growing, conservative part of our culture. (I think it's been there since Rome) Here's the ironic part - conservative parents will not view getting wet in your clothes as something immoral, however, they will discourage people from doing it as much as possible.

Essentially, getting your clothes wet is a rather sensual experience that all people enjoy in a mildly sexual way, either by doing or by watching. It is like an all-over, cool body massage, that sinks into you and touches you everywhere. On a purely emotional level, the enjoyment of sex, or of something sexy and sensual, gets a lot of people's panties in a bunch,(pardon the pun).

So, while there is no actual censorship or moral objection to the activity of wetlook, conservative people will discourage it in many ways, on a purely abstract, or subconscious, emotional level. It is simply an activity that conservative people find too sensual, too enjoyable, and too sexy - to the point that they refuse to entertain it.

Of course, their rebellious kids will - whenever they can, like at a keg party, or at one of Leon's booths, or on the last day of school, and then they will enjoy it even more because it is more of a guilty pleasure, "un-ladylike" behavior, taboo. So, while they are in the moment, they will enjoy it, and then go back to their conservative-parent pleasing behavior.

In regards to the "small number of wetlookers", I think that most or all males enjoy looking at girls in wet clothes, but 95% of sexual men see it more as a means to an end, than an end itself. If you take a look at the GARGANTUAN level of wetlook used in TV commercials and in TV show trailers (who can forget the shot of Jessica Alba emerging from the pool in a red dress for 'Dark Angel') then you can reach the conclusion that seeing a pretty girl soaked in a sexy outfit gets all men's blood pumping - but as a prelude to sex or nudity, not as an orgasm inducing event in itself.

To sum up, I think that the activity of wetlook is a very sensual and sexy activity. However, in the various conservative-controlled environments that control our lives, ANY activity that borders, or hints on sensuality, sexyness, or bodily pleasure is frowned upon. So, if a girl "gets pushed in", "falls in accidently", "gets caught in the rain" in her clothes,that is questionable, but acceptable behavior. However, if a girl pre-meditatively goes in the pool in a pretty dress, because she wants to experience the sensual, body clinging sensation, that behavior would be viewed as unacceptable by many conservative views.

Nuff said.

-J

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By Victor - ru Thu 11/08/05 15:05:06 GMT

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The number of wetlookers in the world is very small.

Still, judging by candid tapes, webshots and what we see at pool parties there are many people who enjoy wetlook. At least from time to time, spontaneously. They get wet, and look at their happy faces! They love it! And they enjoy swimming in clothes more than, for example, their friends swimming with them in usual swimsuits (You have seen pics like this, haven't you?). But they don't repeat it or it takes quite a long while till they do.

WHY?!

In my opinion, first, it is due to the common streotype that wet clothes are unpleasant. Thus, having tried and enjoyed it once, one still thinks, that "at that time" he/she was carried away by the moment, or if it was a pool party, was influenced by the atmosphere of the place, but in general, swimming in clothes is not a good idea.

Secondly, very few people know anything about wetlook. Only wetlook fans themselves and their close relatives and friends do! Even keepers of sex-shops or scientists who study fetishes know nothing. Therefore one just cannot decide upon being a wetlook fan. I'll try to explain what I mean. Let's say (sorry for the comparison, I give it here just as an example), everyone knows about gays, and a man can decide upon being straight (if he likes women), or a gay (if he likes men). In our case a person who once enjoyed swimming in clothes more than in a swimming costume can't decide upon being a wetlook fan, for he knows nothing about wetlook and is unable to understand one's feelings.

Another reason is that swimming in clothes is against the norm, though it isn't against public morality. So if a person happens to be on a beach without a swimsuit and willing to swim in one's street clothes as a rule one cannot make up one's mind. It is because of the fear of attracting undesirable attention and of looking odd. I've seen it happen many times. It is especially dificult to go fully into water if you are the only person who is doing it. If you do it with someone it is much easier. Best of all to do it with a female partner.

Or if you see a few people swimming in clothes it is an encouragement for you. On the contrary if the beach is overcrowded with sunbathers it is a discouragement. And there comes a question of a "critical mass". If there are enough people swimming in clothes it seems quite OK and all people who doubted join, and even some of those who would never fancy it join too. (We used to see in Trafalgar Square. Yes, unfortunately USED TO). So if wetlook was more wide-spread, if there were more places like this, more people would do it.

And a question for you all. What do you think, if all people knew about wetlook, would there be more wetlookers? Thank you for reading the message. I hope I haven't bored you. And thank you in advance for your opinion.

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