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Message # 17491.4.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1

Subject: Ok Mak, whatever you say, I given very little I am so sorry !

Date: Mon 08/08/05 03:37:21 GMT

Name: leonmoomin

Email: leon@mostwet.com

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By MaK - Mon 08/08/05 01:35:48 GMT

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I will distinguish between advertising and contributions, and define contributions as anything, which is free! As I have written before, pictures, which you must pay for, are NOT contributions, so why bring these into the discussion?

The primary product of the company MostWet.com is to arrange wetlook events and parties and the product of Leonmoomin.net is to sell wetlook pictures. Therefore, MostWet.com is not giving anything away by showing pictures from the parties and the events. It is PURE advertising, although some people may see this as contributions! So let us only talk about Leonmoomin.net.

Because your present girlfriend is Lisa, I do not think I am wrong anyhow. I remember a quite dry picture of Lisa in a red dress with a text like this: "Very, very brave Lisa in a very public fountain of Paris". If this is one of yours, you must agree that at that time you primary showed dry teasers, as I wrote before? So where am I wrong?

Read the quote from the original post again. The goal was a top 5 list of the biggest contributors to this forum, and then be honest to yourself – and to me. How many WET pictures or links have leonmoomin.net and the previous site posted for the last 2 years, which is approximately the time I have been visiting this forum. If the number is less than approximately 200 both Darret and Kerry Tiller deserves a higher rank on the list than you! This is the point of my original comment, and I do not think that I am wrong. I have newer said that I have contributed very much to this forum myself, but you don’t need that to evaluate the contributions from others. Before using arguments like this, remember some very clever words: "If you in a discussion get angry, you are no longer fighting for truth, but for yourself!"

I am NOT a jeans lover. I have less than 10 jeans pictures in my collection of several hundred wetlook pictures, but I have been doing photography all my life and sets very high standards for the pictures I want to save and especially for the pictures I want to pay for. From that point of view most party pictures and candid pictures have very low quality. They are usually shot from a distance, have hard flashlight, maybe red eyes and usually contain a lot of disturbing elements like other people – often cut in half. Besides, I am NOT a mooche or freeloader, which I am also accused of. I have been a member of a wetlook producer, but stopped because it was always the same – the same swimming pool, the same type of outfits and the same boring, script-less videos. The majority of wetlook producers use the klik-klik-klik-klik-hope-at-least-one-picture-is-good way of doing photography. This creates average quality pictures, but not world-class pictures as some of the pictures you can find on e.g. Captures Images of CT on One Model Place. Wetlook pictures and videos are like any other product. If you think they are worth the price, you will buy. It is as simple as that. But again, pictures, which you must pay for, are NOT contribution to this forum.

By leonmoomin - leon@mostwet.com Sat 06/08/05 05:45:03 GMT

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As you said in your earlier post, candid etc is not good enough for you, however for the majority of people its great!

Therefore in your eyes I don't contribute much, however in the eyes of a lot of people, I DO!  As contributions to the forum are what is being talked about, not contributions specifically to you, then I think you have answered the reason I took exception to what you said all by yourself!

I have no objection to not being included in your list of favourates, I do have a problem with being singled out and having my contributions belittled by someone who as far as I can see has given very little, to me, or to anyone else here!

You never said, are you a jeans fan, how long have you been visiting the forum???

leonmoomin

By MaK - Fri 05/08/05 23:58:45 GMT

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There is nothing wrong with earning money, but what we are talking about here is contributions to this forum, and pictures, which you must pay for, are NOT contributions.

By leonmoomin - leon@mostwet.com Fri 05/08/05 20:27:26 GMT

Website: www.leonmoomin.net

brief leonmoomin history!

Started in 2000 with a small site featuring my then girlfriend Fiona!  (Free)

Started my next site, "At The Fountains"!  (still Free)  Which featured more than anything else, pictures of my friends modelling for me and candid, about half and half!

In about 2003 I launched "Fully Clothed" with the intention of it being free, to be supported by sales of videos, thing is, these days videos don't sell in huge numbers, not enough to support regular updates.  So I had my fully free modelled wet and messy site, all free, I got very little feedback and then, when I couldn't update, I got complaints, sheesh, complaints about a free site not updating.  So, the final straw came, I started to charge!

Charging came a long way down the road though, a long time after I had given away a HUGE amount of free material.

I would have liked to keep it all free, but, its not possible, everything costs money, hosting, locations, outfits etc, etc.  Not to mention my time, putting in huge amounts of time and effort for very little in return.

Now perhaps, MaK you are a jeans fan, in which case, I admit, I have not given much to you to remember, but then it was not my interest.  If I am now doing jeans and trousers sets, they are sets that would not exsist if it wasn't for the push of the dollar!

I don't know where you get the idea it is greed from?  I am not rich, in fact far from it, greed would imply that I am greedy for wanting to make some money out of my work, as this is now all i do, would you rather i go hungry and homeless just so you can get your free wetlook fix??

Perhaps one day I will win the lottery and when i do, I will make all my stuff free again, until then, I work for a living and wetlook is my product!

Tell me anon, what job do you do, are you greedy for wanting your wages at the end of every month?

leonmoomin

By Anonymous - Fri 05/08/05 16:29:37 GMT

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By FountainFrolic - Fri 05/08/05 10:05:19 GMT

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Oh, and you're obviously one of those freeloaders and mooches who think the producers should provide you with all those "high quality pictures" free completely at their own expense.  There is LOTS and LOTS of wet pics and videos on Leonmoonin.net  Quit whining, buy a membership, or take what scraps the producers are nice enough to throw you FREE.  

By MaK - Fri 05/08/05 06:28:43 GMT

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I may be mistaken you from another and please correct me if I am wrong, but as far I remember you startet out with a site with a lot of pictures with a girl (your girlfriend?) called Lisa. If this is the case, you must admit that it was quite a "dry" period ;-)

By leonmoomin - leon@mostwet.com Fri 05/08/05 04:39:16 GMT

Website: www.MostWet.com

Have you been asleep for the last five years, did you miss MostWet.com and all the other free stuff over the years?

Anyways, I do agree with you, much as I appreceate the vote.  It may serve to dishearten some posters, unless every single person replies here and every single contributer gets mentioned!

leonmoomin

By MaK - Fri 05/08/05 01:04:21 GMT

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Of course the wetlook producers are great contributors, but they are at the same time using it for advertising, and except for post #17428 Leonmoomin has until now primary shown dry teasers. I really thanks Nigel for a great forum and a great programming job making the forum fast, but I do not think that I offend him by saying that he is not among the biggest contributors himself, and even the best forum is nothing worth without contributions.

I think that a top 5 list like this will do more damage than good, because all the great contributors, which are not mentioned, may be disappointed and might stop posting. A single contribution, which may start a good discussion, may be much more valuable than a picture or video clip from a wetlook producer, which you can also find on the wetlook producers homepage.

By mawwam - Thu 04/08/05 13:34:02 GMT

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Here is my top 5

1 Nigel for setting up this forum

2 Rumpel- For his great effort in providing quality pictures

3-Leonmoomin- For setting up brilliant events and also his superb websites

4-Erik-elsas- I have enjoyed every update on the websites which are also free

5-MK- His knowledge of TV shows is outstanding.  Well done!!!

Thanks to everyone on this forum for making this community a great one to be part of.  

Please feel free to share with us your top 5 so we can all see who is king of the wetlook community!!!

thanks mawwam