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Date: Sun 13/03/05 17:43:30 GMT

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Was aired by ABC's Chicago affiliate about 20-25 years ago as a late night movie. I taped it and was really honked off that it didn't include that particular scene, just a split-second "after" shot where you couldn't see anything. Since this was commercial TV, it's hard to say if it was cut to make room for a commercial or just cut from the movie period. I've never seen it anywhere since, not even on Turner Classic Movies, which seems to have about everything. That pic was in Life magazine.
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By MK - wamtec@compuserve.com us Sun 13/03/05 14:15:14 GMT

Website: http://www.vintagewet.com/


Hi JJ

 

I did a quick status update on "the unknown, the rare, the long lost, and the misleading" as it pertains to the great wetlook pics you have on your site for old movies and tv shows. Here is my current update and insights. I can identify some things and give you some insights on what may exist (on celluloid or videotape) and what probably does not exist. Here are my notes....the reason I am posting this publicly is that hopefully some other experts, film buffs and sleuths can identify more things than I can. I picked on some of the great pics that are mysteries or long

lost or not indentified... where I can offer some insights..

 

Here goes...from your site...

 

http://www.vintagewet.com/vwa/scrap/27/wfscrap27.html

This scene definitely does not exist in the final cut of the film BEACH PARTY. The only person who might be able to

shed more light on this would be director William Asher (Elizabeth Montgomery's husband). Unless this film gets

re-leased on DVD and "deleted scenes" are restored...this scene is not on any known print of the film I have ever

seen.

 

http://www.vintagewet.com/vwa/scrap/29/wfscrap29.html

http://www.vintagewet.com/vwa/scrap/30/wfscrap30.html

Good news/Bad News. Good news = Roy & Wetfan from Florida and I have discussed these great dunking scenes for over a

decade....i.e. the week the the MiKe Douglas show went on the road and did "simple simon" into the pool for 4-5 shows that week in 1967. We had given up on these scenes as being "lost" (we thought the videotape had been erased or recycled). A friend of mine (Hurley) actually wrote to Mike Douglas 10 years ago...and Mike was kind enough to write him a personal letter...stating that he did not think those old tapes existed...and he did not have them. BUT THE LATEST UPDATE IS...I have just found out that KING WORLD (Merv Griffen enterprises) now has all the old tapes of the Mike Douglas show from 1964 to 1980. Only a few of the shows have been converted from the old 2inch format videotape to DVD....but they are working on converting more of these old shows in future months. There is an update on this at Mike's website. http://www.themikedouglasshow.com/   The bad news is....they are only releasing screening tapes to professionals in the broadcasting industry at this time. They will not release shows to the general public.

 

So...anybody on this forum who has media credentials....please help order this for us. Those screening tapes are

expensive...i.e. $200 per tape...and they did those dunking shows all that week...5 shows...so it would cost $1000 to acquire those 5 tapes....but if somebody has media credentials and wants to assist...I will finance the purchase of those tapes for you.  Anyway...those scenes you see on the pics are not "lost" as we thought....they are sitting in Merv Griffen's vault.

 

http://www.vintagewet.com/vwa/scrap/18/101.jpg

Nice pic of Rita Moreno....but there is no such thing like this that is enacted in the movie DESIREE....thats a fact. Whatever they did...it was cut from the film.

 

http://www.vintagewet.com/vwa/scrap/18/103.jpg

Likewise...nice pic of Anne Francis...and it took me 15 years to track down a copy of LYDIA BAILEY (which has never

been released on video and never will air on tv again...because of the same reasons AMOS AND ANDY never get

shown....the content of the movie is racist and offensive to minorities and definitly not politically correct to show these days). Anyway...I found a copy of the film, and there is no such scene as depicted in the pic (cos the movie is a period piece about plantations and slaves in the deep south)...and there are some wet scenes with Anne in period dress wading thru the swamp, but nothing like what you see in that pic.

 

http://www.vintagewet.com/vwa/scrapd/01/flashad.jpg

Gee...this girl sure looks like Jenny Agutter

 

http://www.vintagewet.com/vwa/scrapd/03/bow.jpg

and that is definitely Sharon Tate.

 

http://www.vintagewet.com/wfa/scrap/a04/wfscrap19.html

http://www.vintagewet.com/wfa/scrap/a04/wfscrap20.html

http://www.vintagewet.com/wfa/scrap/a04/wfscrap21.html

http://www.vintagewet.com/wfa/scrap/a04/wfscrap22.html

http://www.vintagewet.com/wfa/scrap/a04/wfscrap23.html

Another case of GOOD NEWS and BAD NEWS: The good news is....this Sophia Loren tv special was long thought to be lost

or they erased the tapes (cos it was shot on videotape not film), and a copy of this show DOES exist. I tracked it

down and they have a copy of it at the UCLA Film and Television Archives in California. The bad news is...UCLA

reports that the ONLY videotape copy they have of this show is in extremely fragile condition...and the tape is

disintegrating. So...they have it under lock down and will not let it be screened....cos it needs somebody to restore and digitally remaster it before it degrades any further. Such restoration projects cost from $50,000 to

$100,000...so it is unlikely that any tv distributor will want to pay to restore it. The ONLY hope that show has....is that it also featured Peter Sellers as a guest star...and people are always looking for long lost Peter

Sellers footage....so hopefully some Peter Sellers restoration society will finance the restoration of this tv

special. Otherwise...it remains under lock and key at UCLA.

 

http://www.vintagewet.com/wfa/scrap/a07b/V-8-32-05.jpg

This Cindy Carol scene comes from GIDGET GOES TO ROME (1964) and DOES exist...it is shown on tv all the time and is

available on video.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/gidget_goes_to_rome/

 

http://www.vintagewet.com/wfa/scrap2/wm/a04/a04.html

Another one for the "it don't exist in the movie" category. This scene does not exist in any known copy of GODS

LITTLE ACRE I have ever seen. Another one of those you should wait for a DVD release....so see if somebody adds some

deleted scenes as extra features to a future DVD release.

 

http://www.vintagewet.com/wfa/scrap2/mp/a08/v93524.jpg

This is the best and the most frustrating pic on JJ's site.....gee...I wish somebody could help us identify who this

actress is, and then we can track down the film. I cannot put my finger on it (well...I can...but thats another

story). This is such a great pic...If somebody can tell me the actors name or the actress...we can track this down.

 

http://www.vintagewet.com/wfa/scrap2/mp/a08/v93525.jpg

Another great pic....from a long lost film that has never been released or aired (Happy Go Lucky, from 1943).

Featuring Mary Martin (Larry Hagman's mom). The real mystery is....how the heck did Sean Penn manage to get into this scene...ha ha.

 

http://www.vintagewet.com/wfa/scrap2/mp/a09/v93534.jpg

Another great pic from a mystery film we cannot identify...i.e. who is this actress?...it's on the tip of me !!! .... The only clues we have are...the copyright notice on the pic...i.e. it was a United Artists film released in 1947.

 

http://www.vintagewet.com/wfa/scrap2/mm/a07/v93928.jpg

That appears to be a scene from Fellini's SATYRICON.

 

http://www.vintagewet.com/wfa/scrap2/mm/a08/v93747.jpg

http://www.vintagewet.com/wfa/scrap2/mm/a08/v93906.jpg

Ah yes.....this is what you call..."the needle in a haystack game"....i.e. trying to track down a particular episode

of GUNSMOKE....is a VERY daunting task. If you tape it every day....your odds are 633 to 1....cos there were 233 x 30 minute shows and 400 x 1hr shows....good luck on that one. All I can say is...I have seen numerous episodes over the years, and never seen any such scene like this...and no other collector I known has seen it either. The episodes ran from 1955 to 1975. The show airs on numerous stations the USA and Canada every day. If you wish to search for this scene...the only clue I can offer you is....look at the age of Miss Kitty in this scene. She appears to look quite youngish...not as middle aged as she appeared in the later seasons in the late 60's. So...this must have happened during an early 60's episode, and not one of the latter episodes in the 1970's.

 

http://www.vintagewet.com/wfa/scrap2/mm/a10/v93629.jpg

I can identify this un named clip....and it does exist in the film and is shown on tv all the time. This comes from

the 1956 Laraine Day movie TOY TIGER....co starring Jeff Chandler (the famous crossdresser whom Esther Williams broke off her engagement with....cos she kept catching him wearing her clothes...ha ha). The scene in the film is much better than the pic...cos it is in glorious technicolor.

 

http://www.vintagewet.com/wfa/scrap2/mm/a11/v94015.jpg

Is this pic for real....cos it looks faked...like the girl was cut and pasted onto the pic ??

 

http://www.vintagewet.com/wfa/scrap2/mm/a12/v93625.jpg

I can identify this unnamed pic....this is from a Mario Lanza movie....and I have this scene. It is in color. The

title of the film escapes me right now...but I know I have this scene.

 

http://www.vintagewet.com/wfa/scrap2/mm/a12/v93703.jpg

This is from the 1938 film called SUEZ. The actual scene in the film is even better than then the pics, cos when

Annabella exits the lake in her wet white blouse you can see right thru it and she is not wearing a bra, and this is

as good as a Bo Derek see thru scene. You have a low quality blurry pic of the exit scene in a different section on

your site...here.

http://www.vintagewet.com/wfa/scrap2/mp/a07/v93402.jpg

If you rent the video you can see those puppies quite clearly.

 

Thats all folks.

 

If anybody discovers old movie or tv stills on the web or in books or magazines...please send them to JJ so we can

archive all these things and search for them.

 

MK

 

ps...I watched that movie "The Notebook" last night....great wetlook scene...but I could not figure it out. Not only were there no notebooks in the film...it was a period piece set in the 1940's... before personal computers had even been invented.....talk amongst yourselves.

 


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