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Subject: Re: Re: Re: A girls view on Wetclothing couples...

Date: Mon 21/02/05 20:47:52 GMT

Name: AnthonyX

Email: anthonyx@jowc.net

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I didn't say *all* men, just a sizeable proportion of the men who visit this forum. Take a look at the posts which incite flames, and what sort of things are said. Sometimes all it takes is a picture of a woman having certain features and build, and guys are all over the post labelling her a male crossdressing as a woman. Anyway, the context in which I made the remark was to suggest that certain combination images might actually put off some men who would otherwise be interested in the image, and that many producers are tuned in to the elements which either enhance or detract from the sales of their product.

Bottom line is that no matter what you do, some people will appreciate it, some will hate it, others may be completely disinterested. If you take pictures and share them for free, perhaps all you need is one other person to express their appreciation to encourage you to share more. If you want to cover the cost of your efforts by selling it, you have to give some thought to how many people will like it enough to pay for it, and that often seems to start a cycle of determining what sells most and focusing on that - at the exclusion of just about everything else.

Personally, I think there's room for all sorts of different twists on WAM and wetlook. The evidence for this is in the free content - people posting just because they want to share. However, when you look at the material which is actually being sold, it narrows down. Why? Simply because it's a reflection of what is in greatest demand, because the producers want to maximize their sales within a certain niche.

If you have faith that there is a ready audience and an untapped market for something else, that's great. Perhaps it is out there, just waiting for the right person to tap into it.

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Re: Re: A girls view on Wetclothing couples...

By A fan of wet clothed sex - Mon 21/02/05 17:07:09 GMT

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I wonder-- If it is true that men abhor erotic images of men, and if a "combination" content (that some women such as Cindy would enjoy), then why is "porno" such a huge business? If anthony is correct, then porno would be marketed to a female audeience (which we know is not true).

I have read that female producers of sexually explicit movies have included the female perspective, which includes more snuggling and foreplay that is the norm in the male part of the adult video business.

I think that "wetclothingcouples" does tend toward the "foreplay" aspect of a relationship, and it might be interesting to see if a more sexual conclusion to the use of wet clothing as part of foreplay might be a "turn on" for some women without "turning off" the male consumer. If it works for the adult film industry, why shouldn't it work for the wetlook film industry?

Of course, without loving and willing couples, whatever Cindy wants will probably not happen.

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Re: A girls view on Wetclothing couples...

By AnthonyX - anthonyx@jowc.net Mon 21/02/05 09:03:40 GMT

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I think you need to recognize that you are in a very small minority, which will make it difficult to find what you seek.

I should say that I'm glad to see you post your opinion... I think women are under represented here. I'd also like to say that I think your request is entirely valid, and by rights you should be able to find what you are looking for.

When I first created my web site (jowc.net), I wanted to appeal to women as much as men. My experience demonstrated a few interesting things. Firstly, it seems that fewer women go looking on the internet for erotic content than men, although the size of the disparity is arguable. Secondly, the "average" straight woman seems more interested in erotic literature than erotic imagery; they may appreciate pictures of other women on an esthetic level, but not a sexual one. Third, anywhere you find material designed to appeal to men, you will find a sizeable proportion of men who abhor erotic images of other men. It all adds up to a pretty significant dis-incentive for most producers to expand their markets beyond that of erotic female images targetted to straight men. Most producers would likely view the market you represent as too small to exploit on its own, and "combination" content would alienate the market they already have.

I think Erik has been rather courageous in setting up wet clothing couples. It demonstrates a liberal attitude the world could use more of.

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A girls view on Wetclothing couples...

By Cindy - cindyhuffy2u@yahoo.com Sun 20/02/05 17:07:26 GMT

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Hello, Im Cindy, the wife of Mike (swimlvr591), I have browsed some of the wet sites here, and like the way Eric Elsas has created the wet couples sites. It is appealing to both me and Mike. I am the one who funds this site. I have requested many times, with no replys, that it would be nice to show just as much of the guys as the girls. I would like to see some pics of the guys hard-on. I know there will be some negative reactions, but since both sexes are shown, how "hard" would it be to show the stuff that intrests the females? I may no longer provide funding if there cant be something in there for me. So, how bout it, Eric, how bout giving the girl(s) what they want too?

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