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Date: Thu 07/10/04 07:48:18 GMT

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In reply to Message (12539.1.1) Hello Re: Re: kinda off topic ....12525 continued...

By MK - wamtec@compuserve.com us Thu 07/10/04 03:41:23 GMT

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Yes...there are some stores in the USA that sell our tapes and the more well known companies. Those stores were mostly in New York and San Francisco...but few other cities. One adult store in New York was selling our SSS videos for years...but we shut them down after we caught them making illegal copies of our tapes and so they only wanted to buy 2-3 tapes...but were making loads of illegal copies on the side. We suspected this store for quite some time...so I sent in an "undercover" person to that store to buy one of my videos from them...and then to report to me what the cassette looked like...and it was not one of our original tapes...it was a bootleg copy.

 

Thats the dilemma when dealing with adult book stores...many of them are run by unscrupulous people..and those stores have ties to the mob...and any store that only wants to buy less than 10 copies of your tape...is an immediate red flag that they intend to bootleg that tape and make their own copies. For that reason...we set a policy several years ago...that we would only sell stocks to stores in minimum block orders of 100 units only...we will not sell small amounts of stock for fear of pirating. That basically kills the deal...cos 99% of adult video stores are not going to order large numbers of these kinds of tapes...because the content is not hard enough for their patrons.

 

We had enough problems with unscrupulous distribuitors and retailers in the 1990's (in the mid 1990's....one store in Tokyo Japan had all my tapes and Splosh and Wilkey tapes...being sold all over Japan...and they were pirating stuff from all the major wetlook producers...myself included.

 

That was the 1990's...before the DVD era....and now with DVDs...the pirating problem is even worse....cos all they need is one DVD...and then the pirates can make perfect mastertape replicas from your DVD. Forget about encrytion techniques on DVDs...Macrovision can be bypassed with any time based corrector device or simply re-capturing the DVD to a pc and burning a new DVD will eradicate all the anticopy encryption.

 

Basically...you cannot trust any adult video store in the USA any farther than you can swing a cat. The ONLY trustworthy entities would be the major distributors in the mainstream...i.e. amazon, barnes & noble, moviesunlimited (they still carry some of our older SSS titles)....but the mainstream stores are not interested in wetlook videos. The ONLY thing they will buy from distributors...are more mainstream videos like the GIRLS GONE WILD series..i.e. Spring Break wet t shirt events etc. They will not go for fully clothed wetlook...not in a million years. The only thing they will carry in stock are wet t shirt events etc.

 

So...the ONLY place for wetlook videos to be found...is on the internet....they will never be found in any quantity in adult video stores or mainstream video stores....not unless we go out and hire some famous celebrities to put on the cover....

 

.....i.e. if somebody were to make a pool party video featuring catfights between Madonna versus Britney Spears....versus Christina Aguilera versis Jessica Simpson....heck...all the video stores in the country would be selling that video...ha ha

 

MK

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By wet gooner - gooner_1967@netzero.com us Thu 07/10/04 02:36:25 GMT

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ok mark,what about in the usa.is there wetlook tapes over here.we have 2 adult video stores here,and haven't seen one yet.i have to look on the back cover to see if there is a wetlook scene
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By MK - wamtec@compuserve.com us Wed 06/10/04 15:57:33 GMT

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This thread was falling way off the page..so it is better that I continue this thread here. The original question was asking about the availability to buy wetlook videos in stores in the London area. There are indeed some stores like Janus and other adult bookstores in the Soho area of London that sell some of the more famous wetlook titles...and these titles can also be found at several of the large cities in the UK. However, the titles available are only the top professional series such as those made by Bill Shipton (Splosh) Roger & David (Aquantics) and Nigel (Minx). For a full list of all the bookstores and video stores in the UK that sell wet & messy videos in various cities...all you have to do is buy a copy of Splosh Magazine and look in their magazine pages....you will finds all the stores listed in various ads.

 

The reason that only the very best pro videos can be found on store shelves is due to the 70 year old censorship laws enacted in the UK in the 1930's that require all movies released (and now videos sold off the shelf) in the UK to be "certified" by the British Board of Film Censors (BBFC) with what is called the BBFC ratings certificate.

 

Unlike the USA...which has the MPAA rating system for movies that are released...the U.S. constitution has the first amendment that guarantees freedom of speech and expression, and therefore the u.s. government cannot impose mandatory ratings on movies. The U.S. MPAA rating system is entirely "optional"...not mandatory...and is really nothing more than a marketing tool these days....i.e. movies and videos can be released in the USA as "unrated" if producers wish to do so -- the only reason people get a ratings certificate in the USA...is to be able to market that movie...and they do not want the dreaded "X" rating...cos that is the kiss of death for ticket sales...so they will often drop genitalia scenes just to get the R rating so that the movie theatre owners will show the movie on more screens.

 

The UK is a totally different ballgame. Unlike the U.S. constitution, there is no right to free speech in the uk ...as a Brit myself...I know that any time the government wants to suppress something...they can slap a "D Notice" on any book or media they want...and just ban it from being seen. Unlike the optional MPAA ratings system in the USA....the UK BBFC ratings system is MANDATORY...and it is illegal to sell unrated or uncertified videos off the shelf. The jail terms and fines for selling unrated videos...are about the same as the USA gives to bamk robbers...ha ha ...7 years in jail and fines of $100,000 and up.

 

If it were just a simple matter of submitting your video to the BBFC and getting their certificate of approval...at a reasonable cost....then thousands of uk producers would be able to sell their products in uk stores. However...the BBFC laws have been totally corrupted over the years...and the entire purpose of the 1930's law...ie to control indecency....has really been taken over today by what really amounts to be a TAX....a HUGE tax on producers who wish to sell their product.

 

FYI...I received an email from Bill Shipton (Splosh editor) yesterday...cos we were planning to release several of my titles on DVD for sale in UK stores...and the BBFC certification fee is 1200 pounds ($2200) per title.

 

Now you can see why it becomes untenable for many producers to sell their products off the shelf in the UK....cos you need to cough up $2200 first...and for most small time producers, they cannot recover that cost thru sales...the BBFC fees would create a loss to the producer.

 

So...as with any outrageous tax.....the people who do not like unfair and outrageous taxes.....revolt. In earlier times...you guys over in the USA had your Boston Tea Party.

 

In this day and age...media producers resort to taking their products online and offshore and NOT on uk store shelves.

 

As any economist will tell you...when you increase taxes...you will not increase tax revenues....you just drive it offshore or people invest in other things instead. If you lower taxes...you will increase your tax revenues...cos more people are willing to pay it.

 

This is a lesson the UK Government and BBFC have not yet learned....cos I have 100 titles I would like to market in the UK stores...if the UK BBFC fees were reasonable..i.e. $100 per application....I would pay it.....but I will not be gouged...I do not consider a $2000 tax per each title ...to be a reasonable tax to pay.....so the UK government will get ZERO taxes from me. I will stay in the USA and gladly pay taxes to the U.S. government instead.

 

mk

 


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