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Subject: Hello Re: [Semi-official statement from Eromaxx.net crew]

Date: Wed 06/10/04 04:06:37 GMT

Name: AnthonyX ca

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Here's my take on the situation:

 

The fundamental issues are:

1.  Quality of content

2.  Special interest content

3.  Quantity of new content (frequency of updates)

4.  Value for money

 

Which really boils down to quantity and quality of content within a specific range of interests (WAM/wetlook) and what it costs.

 

Although you may get encounter complaints about the disappearance of all the specialized sites (shampoopuppets, get-wet, etc.), I don't think anyone here will be too concerned whether or not you resurrect all those domain names, just as long as the WAM/wetlook fetish content can be readily isolated from everything else.

 

$70/mo strikes me as rather expensive, given all the other "competition" out there, but that's a supply/demand issue.

 

I don't think the issue is with technical quality... it all appears to be well lit, and shot with good equipment. The "quality" concern is purely a matter of what you think of as the "money shot" and what proportion of a video is "money shot" or in some way relevant to it (as set up or aftermath). I think we all know what qualifies as the money shot for conventional porn, but those of us with WAM/wetlook interests look for something different. Speaking for myself (and at least some part of the wetlook community), the money shot is when a pretty woman submerges in a pool fully (and nicely) dressed, or emerges from a pool, or displays enjoyment of being soaked or lathered up fully clothed. Seeing her strip naked and parade about or wrestle with another woman is "dime-a-dozen" porn, and not of any real value for the wetlook fan.

 

The quantity issue is purely a matter of how many minutes of video you get for your WAM/wetlook $.

 

The ideal wetlook scene involves a well-dressed woman (personally, I like girls skirt-suits and blouses, but there are fans of everything from jeans to formal wear) who starts out dry, and ends up soaked. In the course of things she may be swimming, showering, bathing, walking in the rain, or whatever, but gives us plenty of opportunity to see her get soaked, enjoy being soaked, and see just how her clothes look soaked. I think your material from only a couple of months ago demonstrated that your folks really "got" the wetlook thing as I've described it, but you've since moved away from it and "blended" WAM and wetlook with other stuff.

 

If I were to speculate, I'd say that eromaxx is responding to economic pressure to produce for a larger mainstream market at the expense of specialized fetishes like WAM/wetlook. It's easy to understand why that would happen. Clothing is expensive, and is likely destroyed in a WAMming session; also, catering to a specialized fetish limits the size of your market. I can also understand how the need for locations like pools or props, sets, and WAM materials and cleanup can add to the logistical problems and cost of a wet or WAM shoot.

 

To summarize, I think the cry is not to put things back "the way they were", so much as to recognize the existence of a specialized fetish market, and if you want to go after that market, produce an appropriate product. "Blended" offerings (combining WAM, wetlook and/or other "traditional" porn) to try to maximize the potential market actually devalues the product; people like me who are most interested in wetlook won't buy it.

 

I've included the URL of my "worship" site if it helps you understand what us wetlook fans are looking for.

 

I hope this has provided you with some useful insight into the matter.

In reply to Message (12508.4) Sad [Semi-official statement from Eromaxx.net crew]

By Michal - michal+mxmov@communicon.biz cz Wed 06/10/04 02:07:10 GMT

Website: http://eromaxx.net/


Hi there,

first of all - let me introduce myself: I'm part of the eromaxx.net crew, taking care basically about server stuff, member problems, security incidents and so on.

 

I'm quite sad to hear/read such replies about decreasing quality of the content ... I haven't seen it coming.

 

Anyway, this discussion is really alarming to all of us at Communicon (company which runs Eromaxx). I've spent today discussing this with my coworkers and with my boss (Robert) ... trying to find a way to fix this situation to customer's satisfaction.

 

Basically we're willing to change the site back where you (customers) want it to be, but we need serious feedback on the issues, not just bitter text saying "it's all wrong".

 

So, in order to kick our site back on the right track, please provide me some kind of valuable (and sane) feedback, if you can (and please be thorough, if possible).

 

I've already read the comments about porn + wet-games vs. wetlook scenes ... but I still think this is just tip of the iceberg. Can you please help me discower what's under the water? (ie. what exactly we're missing?)

 

Any of your input would be greatly appreciated and I can promise you I will try as hard as I can to make our sites as great as they once were (according to you).

 

Please, talk to me.

 

Michal

In reply to Message (12508) Hello About Eromaxx, a dissapointment

By POlice - us Tue 05/10/04 01:17:37 GMT

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below you find posted avi's from eromaxx.net.  This started out as a great site, if pricey at $70 per month.  But two months ago (you'll notice that those avi's stop in August), eromaxx discontinued some of its sites and cut its wetlook update schedule by about 2/3.  So, a site that had five or six great wetlook sets per week now offers only about two or three a month.  Not really worth $70 a month anymore.

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