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Subject: Hello Re: Yeah, I agree, death to bikinis!

Date: Thu 12/08/04 18:31:21 GMT

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I'm not entirely sure it's desensitization. I saw absolutely no porn until college and then hated it when I did. (It's the attitude.) It _is_ parental attitude-- my parents never reacted with alarm if I saw something accidentally. (Such as the streaker at a soccer game on TV the very day we arrived in Europe for the first time). Neither did they react with alarm in regards to people in wet clothes, either.

But I think clothes will always remain spontaneous swimwear-- if I read Australian trends right (from my extremely remote viewpoint), more people will come to the beach/swimming pool in wet suits or rashies and shorts or...

And as much as I appreciate wet clothes, I still appreciate one-piece swimsuits. I learned once, though, one reason women don't like them: They're a little tight in a certain sensitive spot... Well, my answer to that, all ye women who hate the bikini/one piece dilemma: Wear surf shorts and camisoles, please! :)  (one step at a time...)

In reply to Message (11616.7.1) Read This Yeah, I agree, death to bikinis!

By leonmoomin - leonmoomin@ntlworld.com gb Thu 12/08/04 03:59:21 GMT

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However if there was no bikinis, then we would get desensitized to wetlook!  I am myself very desensitized these days!  To much of a good thing in this case would make it not such a good thing!

 

I think that fetishes come slightly from the availability of naked porn, there is so much of it about, lots of people have become desensitized to it, so the brain is confused into thinking there is nothing special about it!  The brain then adapts and comes up with a more obscure arousal switch!

 

Think about it, if the sight of girls fully clothed or not turned us on, we would constantly be walking around with a hard on, the body must come up with some sort of control for our arousals, something to switch it on and off!  In the olden days, the sight of a picture of naked woman would send most men into a hot sweat!  That was the main switch for turning on the bodies reproductive systems!  Nowadays, the sight is so common that the switch in some of us has had to adapt to regulate the whole system!  So our adaption is wetclothes, that is what our brains have decided to do to compensate for the huge amount of nude material available!

 

I am someone who has been into wetlook from the earliest days of my memory, however, I think i can trace the trigger being the fact that my first words were tits.  My grandparents always made my father feel that sex was dirty and something to be disgusted with, so my dad tried to do the opposite with me, however it sort of backfired!  My dads pointing out of boobs on page three of the sun every morning when I was learning to talk trained my brain that the sight of boobs was nothing special, so my brain goes off and picks something else that is!  Tiswas, that must have been it, it was the saturday morning show of the early seventies, I must have watched it and my brain seeking a new system control decided to pick the sight of wet clothes!

 

I get the feeling that now with more and more nudity in society, that more people will become fetishists!

 

So beware, if you get your wish, you will go off wetlook very quickly, it is possible that you will get your wish in the future as society addapts to sun cancer and ozone problems!

 

leonmoomin Peace Man

In reply to Message (11616.7) Hello Nope, I've never noticed...

By klm4748 - uu Thu 12/08/04 00:08:18 GMT

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But then I've always been carfeul about how I bring up the topic, and to whom. Anthony is right, the time and place have to be right... but I think the impression you've made is a big factor, too. Leonmoomin must have the right stuff that I just don't have; I have to know the girl pretty well before I can ask her on a hot, sunny day if she'd like to go swimming in the water we happen to be next to.

But I don't know if everyone has a perversion. I'd say it depends a lot on how much experimentation a person has permitted themselves. So maybe some people who say they don't have one really just haven't developed one yet. Unfortunately, I think the door is closed on wetlook for my g/f, since she sees my fetish as purely masturbation, the whole of which she can't accept!

But I wouldn't say that the US is inherently better or worse than Europe. I'd say most of the Webshots of clothed people in pools are in the US. America has more clean, natural water and more home swimming pools. So, lots of kids experience swimming in clothes, just by going to parties at a friend's house. I also sucessfully got pulled in at public and YMCA pools. Europeans, meanwhile, have more fountains, and foam/beach/pool parties; but don't you dare get close to a public pool during normal opening hours with anything more than Speedo-style swimwear! [Yuck! :)]

So, what has worked for me, though rather depressing, has been sitting on docks and pool edges, clothed, hoping for someone gregarious enough to say hi and invite or push/pull me in. It has happened a few times, more often when the girls themselves are wearing more than swimwear.

What I hate is what I heard on a program about the history of the swimsuit. An older woman recalls her youth, in the 1920's, when the suit was shrinking most rapidly. She said no one WANTED to bare so much, they were JUST KEEPING UP with EVERYONE ELSE!

It's women's fault in the first place! And now they won't go back!

DEATH TO BIKINIS!

In reply to Message (11616) Confused Anyone ever noticed......

By Mike - us Wed 11/08/04 09:13:06 GMT

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......if you talk to a girl about going swimming, you can carry on a pretty decent conversation, even talking about how good she looks in her 2 piece that pretty well is like a bra and panties. BUT, if you mention  to the same girl about going in the water with all her clothes on, long jeans, and a dark colored shirt they end the conversatin real quick, and sometimes may even refer to ya as a pervert. Whats up with that?I never could figure that part out.

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