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Message # 10688.1.1.2 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Dunk tanks Date: Tue 15/06/04 05:07:26 GMT Name: MK Email: wamtec@compuserve.com |
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Thanks for the kind words....but check Leonmoomin's latest postings from his dunk tank pics...cos all the credit goes to him for the way he stages things. I was merely there to assist him... to elaborate on what you said
>There are three major failings in most dunktank shots.
>One is the encased "security fence" around the > dunkee.Worthy of a maximum-security facility in some > instances. Leonmomin gives us (you should excuse the > expression)"full frontal" shots of the gals. Most hide >them behind the these barriers.
That is very true. We remove those fencings because they obscure the view. It is very difficult to see details thru a cage or fencing.
>Two is the distressing tendency for dunkees to use > swimsuits...'nuff said.
Why do you think we all love Thailand so much. There is no need to persuade anybody to go fully clothed in Asia. You know what Asian girls are like...and they are very shy and modest and do not want to be seen in swimsuits anyway. Even if you tried to persuade these girls to put on a swimsuit...they would refuse to do it cos they prefer to stay fully clothed instead....so this is why we love Asian countries so much. I just had another friend of mine tape 3 dunk tank events in Singapore and send me his camcorder footage from Singapore...and its the same story there as well...nobody wears a swimsuit..they all prefer to stay clothed.
>Three is the fact that at least 50% of the shots are posed > on the dunk chair/platform/whatever with the subject bone >dry.
Number one rule of a good wetlook scene is ...the segment must show BEFORE (dry) DURING (in water) and AFTER (aftermath wetlook after leaving the water). Any wetlook scene that exludes any of these elements...is no good in my opinion. This is OFTEN the case with tv wet scene. For info..a scene where the girl is already wet and in the pool but you never saw her entrance...is called an "in-progress" wetlook scene (that sucks)...and a scene where the girl is in the water and the scene cuts away and you don't see her exit...is called a "no aftermath" scene...and that sucks too.
>When MK sets up his own dunk venues, he recognizes these > failings and compensates for them.
So does Leonmoomin. Actually...I would not call them failings by the mainstream (tv or otherwise)...they just do not do things in the way we like to see them. To be honest...we film things in a "gratuitous" way for maximum effect...cos gratuitous is my middle name.
>Finally, there is the fact that shots of charity dunking > events and such are often taken at long ranges, supports > my belief that these are not fertile fields for good >wetlook.
have you ever tried to film at a carnival or charity dunk tank event...is is NOT easy...cos the ONLY way to get the best shots...is right out in front..where you are too conspicuous and will be heckled. Thats what dunkees do...they sit in the dunk tank and heckle people to dunk them...and so if you are too conspicuous...you cannot stay around the tank for long or you will be heckled to death...i.e. why the heck are you taking my picture for so long..and why you aren't you buying any balls etc.
It is only possible to film at large events with large crowds...where you are less conspicuos...and then you cannot get the good shots either... cos the crowds are too large.
So..again..thats why Thailand is a pleasant place for us to organize our events...cos the dunk tank is operated by Leonmoomin and we own it for 4 days and hire lots of Thai girls to host it for us.
MK
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In reply to Message (10688.1.1) Re: Re: Dunk tanks
By Sopping - katakai@verizon.net Tue 15/06/04 02:49:29 GMT There are three major failings in most dunktank shots.
One is the encased "security fence" around the dunkee.Worthy of a maximum-security facility in some instances. Leonmomin gives us (you should excuse the expression)"full frontal" shots of the gals. Most hide them behind the these barriers.
Two is the distressing tendency for dunkees to use swimsuits...'nuff said.
Three is the fact that at least 50% of the shots are posed on the dunk chair/platform/whatever with the subject bone dry.
When MK sets up his own dunk venues, he recognizes these failings and compensates for them.
Finally, there is the fact that shots of charity dunking events and such are often taken at long ranges, supports my belief that these are not fertile fields for good wetlook.
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In reply to Message (10688.1) Re: for webshots fans
By w@mboy - Tue 15/06/04 00:08:43 GMT > I pity the poor folks on dial up who have to wade thru the webshots links each day trying to find something that is not the norm or is more interesting than the majority of webshots pics are.
Thanks for your kind words MK :) My dial-up doesn't even run to 56k (it's around 40k) and I have hordes of Webshots links which I've just pasted into text files to go through when I get time. I can only set 3 or 4 downloading at a time or the images don't load due to some problem with Webshots so it is a chore but I am still grateful to the Webshots trawlers because I have got some great pictures from them.
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In reply to Message (10688) for webshots fans
By MK - wamtec@compuserve.com Mon 14/06/04 16:29:43 GMT FYI, here is a keyword you seem to be missing on your searches thru webshots...i.e. dunkings and dunk tanks. I cut and pasted this list from the DT forum.
The problem with Webshots is...too many pics posted each dau...and too many of them are not very interesting...but buried amongst all the webshots postings we get each day...there are 1 or 2 good ones at times. But this is like searching for a needle in a haystack (looking for gems in a quarry full of rocks).
I pity the poor folks on dial up who have to wade thru the webshots links each day trying to find something that is not the norm or is more interesting than the majority of webshots pics are.
It would be really helpful if webshots hunters and poster could help the forum folks out a bit...by grouping the links to pics according to different clothing types and interests. E.G. if all the pics are "casual dress" wetlook...then please say so...cos the formal attire folks would like to know..so they can save their time.
The southern charms posters are now doing this...i.e. letting folks know what the girl is wearing as a caption to their link postings...perhap Kerry Tiller can help us out too...cos even though all the data he provides about the Japanese stars is nice to know...thats not what we really want to know...the main question everybody wants to know is...what is the model wearing...especially when many of the Japanese idols site are appalling slow to load.
Anyway..I am just as guilty posting this list of unsorted links too...i.e. a lot of pabulum here too...but a few nice ones if you have the time to find them.
MK
misc dunk tank links..
http://community.webshots.com/photo/118638516/137104560XTSVVo
http://community.webshots.com/photo/137418408/137429467abPhal
http://community.webshots.com/photo/137550851/137593459WsoXDQ
http://community.webshots.com/photo/139513248/139480830BPpVrE
http://community.webshots.com/photo/139497626/139499120zDUkzT
http://community.webshots.com/photo/137505142/137550027emQSWr
http://community.webshots.com/photo/137505142/139921448qjcMls
http://community.webshots.com/photo/139962146/139971523oLUXyz
http://community.webshots.com/photo/140574755/140577444XMIhgL
http://community.webshots.com/photo/140574755/140577674eUNiPB
http://community.webshots.com/photo/140363714/141135063jEJxej
http://community.webshots.com/photo/143558666/143564267gKvxcw
http://community.webshots.com/photo/143558666/143564787Wbajfd
http://community.webshots.com/photo/143558666/143565206qMSBqP
http://community.webshots.com/photo/143883679/143913735UcvxRh
http://community.webshots.com/photo/143883679/143913761VHVqSn
http://community.webshots.com/photo/144314480/144324037oFGyZB
http://community.webshots.com/photo/145539026/145539993azCAlT
http://community.webshots.com/photo/145761175/145769073nXJrzg
http://community.webshots.com/photo/112896968/128503543rAUhkF
http://community.webshots.com/photo/139175165/139182815VRYscF
http://community.webshots.com/photo/111992615/139616636SZwMqV
http://community.webshots.com/photo/140589507/140594294JKvjvi
http://community.webshots.com/photo/140589507/140594428LJKvbJ
http://community.webshots.com/photo/141635980/141638183QWepGt
http://community.webshots.com/photo/142955448/145063206DHBTdW
http://community.webshots.com/photo/141040501/145598450RBlTys
http://community.webshots.com/photo/112896968/128503146xpuvUu
http://community.webshots.com/photo/138944377/138945496dEJiyB
http://community.webshots.com/photo/138944377/138945455tEbjsj
http://community.webshots.com/photo/141722649/139548393PAcmav
http://community.webshots.com/photo/141722649/139548587UGomRO
http://community.webshots.com/photo/141722649/139548428IFGGSu
http://community.webshots.com/photo/141722649/139548631QiqeGE
http://community.webshots.com/photo/141722649/139548691GCMOAb
http://community.webshots.com/photo/142955448/145063206DHBTdW
http://community.webshots.com/photo/78002701/78014361anJGbt
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